New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie tries to get "revenge" on print media, loses. Throws Twitter tantrum.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/311614-morning-joe-cohost-trump-told-me-let-it-be-an-arms-race-on
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie unleashed his inner pit bull Tuesday on Twitter after the Legislature shelved his bill to yank millions of dollars in ads from state newspapers.
The measure was dubbed Christie's "revenge" against newspapers that aggressively covered Bridgegate — the investigation that led to the convictions of two allies who conspired to cause a traffic jam on the George Washington Bridge in 2013 to punish a Democratic mayor who didn't endorse the governor for re-election.
The bill would have repealed the state law requiring legal notices to be printed in newspapers, clearing the way for the lucrative ads to move online.
Christie has denied knowing about the bridge scheme in advance and insisted that the bill had nothing to do with Bridgegate, saying it was first introduced in 2010.
But lawmakers weren't buying it — the measure was put on hold, perhaps indefinitely, on Monday — and neither were hundreds of residents who flooded the state Capitol with angry calls, according to several state news outlets.
Legislative Republicans said the bill could be revived in a later session, but the delay infuriated the famously combustible Christie, who launched a Twitter offensive Tuesday against Democrats who opposed it and big newspaper companies.
By DY_nasty Go To PostCrud. No more warnings.
Is he not one though? Can you explain how he is not one at this point?
I been watching Cynthia G's videos on YT she is completely right when it comes to some (racist trolls mostly) white people and their sick psychology. I have posted nothing wrong and what I posted is not racist. If you feel that it is, you are wrong. I'm not going to live my life anymore making excuses (unknowingly) for white supremacy and what they can get away with because of it.
Here is her YT page https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrrU5LV6Okewb9UVLXjA-Pw suggest you watch some videos.
Here is a book you can read about breaking the slave mentality and healing yourself by Dr. Joy DeGury, Ph.D
https://www.amazon.com/Post-Traumatic-Slave-Syndrome-Americas/dp/0985217200/ref=nav_signin?ie=UTF8&qid=1482435796&sr=8-1&keywords=post+traumatic+slave+syndrome&;
I have done nothing wrong sir.
Thank you.
you want to layout white supremacy and detail how this plays into specific past and present trends DO THAT. nobody here would ever try and stop you. quite the opposite - if you bring that level of discussion to any topic i'm willing to guarantee that you'll get the proper dialogue in return.
don't just drop 'white devils' or some other blanket laziness.
don't just drop 'white devils' or some other blanket laziness.
By DY_nasty Go To Postyou want to layout white supremacy and detail how this plays into specific past and present trends DO THAT. nobody here would ever try and stop you. quite the opposite - if you bring that level of discussion to any topic i'm willing to guarantee that you'll get the proper dialogue in return.
don't just drop 'white devils' or some other blanket laziness.
I can see where you are coming from my post is very short. I don't agree that the label is lazy, its accurate in my opinion. He is evil incarnate. Must be destroyed. I am not going to be a fool when it comes to recognizing who is against me and labeling them as such appropriately.
By p s y Go To Postyou cant be serious with that youtube channel crud
jesus christ
What is wrong with the channel? What video did you watch what did you disagree with?
This is classic though telling me I can't be serious but don't want to tell me why. Just want me to shut up about it or "get over it".
By CRUD Go To PostWhat is wrong with the channel? What video did you watch what did you disagree with?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q2JCKFZ12g
This is classic though telling me I can't be serious but don't want to tell me why. Just want me to shut up about it or "get over it".
within the first minute she says "I really think we should have voluntary segregation"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BNk-12o-AM
"I don't think all white people fall prey into the deviancy[of bestiality] but the majority of them do"
this clown is literally worldstar & youtube comments come to life.
By p s y Go To Posthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q2JCKFZ12g
within the first minute she says "I really think we should have voluntary segregation"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BNk-12o-AM
"I don't think all white people fall prey into the deviancy[of bestiality] but the majority of them do"
this clown is literally worldstar & youtube comments come to life.
Naw, here is another video you can try to dismiss after not watching it.
Dr. Umar Johnson - How Symbols Are Used To Control Black People
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ1vQSzQwgM
She is not a clown. This is very real. We have integrated ourselves and we are getting killed for it because they don't want us here period. Where are the droves of white people being executed by police? I don't want to argue with you. Watch one of her videos for real and get back to me.
By CRUD Go To PostI can see where you are coming from my post is very short. I don't agree that the label is lazy, its accurate in my opinion. He is evil incarnate. Must be destroyed. I am not going to be a fool when it comes to recognizing who is against me and labeling them as such appropriately.It's a racist term... that should end the discussion
By blackace Go To PostIt's a racist term… that should end the discussion
I disagree wont use the term here since it offends but I disagree. Psy never expected you to watch the videos good day as well.
By CRUD Go To PostI disagree wont use the term here since it offends but I disagree. Psy never expected you to watch the videos good day as well.I appreciate you listening even if I can't understand how you don't see the term as racist...
By blackace Go To PostI appreciate you listening even if I can't understand how you don't see the term as racist…
I really dont. I welcome all the judgment that comes with it. Still love you guys. This is just where I am in life right now and how I perceive things around me.
People always want to believe time will solve racism. I know that to be false. Time is just time, Its what you do in that time that makes a difference and provokes change.
There's actually good discussions to be had on the racist and misogynistic foundations of a society like the U.S., calling white people zoophiles though is not one of those.
Good to hear that Christie didn't get his way.
He's always been a bully and his Twitter rant is exactly what I would expect his response to be.
He's always been a bully and his Twitter rant is exactly what I would expect his response to be.
By Tea Go To PostThere's actually good discussions to be had on the racist and misogynistic foundations of a society like the U.S., calling white people zoophiles though is not one of those.
I believe we are having one now, we just don't see eye to eye.
How would black people self-segregate who are already in mixed families? Partners non-black? How does that even jive with our current reality? Also it's pretty fucking insulting to say people's interracial relationship is just born out of the black individuals insecurities.
By Tea Go To PostHow would black people self-segregate who are already in mixed families? Partners non-black? How does that even jive with our current reality? Also it's pretty fucking insulting to say people's interracial relationship is just born out of the black individuals insecurities.
It's very insulting to me personally
By Tea Go To PostHow would black people self-segregate who are already in mixed families? Partners non-black? How does that even jive with our current reality? Also it's pretty fucking insulting to say people's interracial relationship is just born out of the black individuals insecurities.
She truly believes that. I don't agree myself. I am in a mixed relationship not out of insecurity however. I was not insulted when I heard her thoughts on it though. That is just how she feels. She does alot of videos about the dangers of having interracial relations and babies. It is radical but I listen and take what I can from it.
By CRUD Go To PostShe truly believes that. I don't agree myself. I am in a mixed relationship not out of insecurity however. I was not insulted when I heard her thoughts on it though. That is just how she feels. She does alot of videos about the dangers of having interracial relations and babies. It is radical but I listen and take what I can from it.That's basically the same thing the Klan and whatnot believe in..
I'm guessing this thread was taken out of another by mods? I don't see the connection between Chris Christie and Crud's admiration for a pseudo-Marcus Garvey turned conspiracy theorist for youtube views.
By Gabyskra Go To PostI'm guessing this thread was taken out of another by mods? I don't see the connection between Chris Christie and Crud's admiration for a pseudo-Marcus Garvey turned conspiracy theorist for youtube views.Nope. Thread just went that way. We've never split a thread in such a way.
By blackace Go To PostThat's basically the same thing the Klan and whatnot believe in..
In some ways I can see the similarities. Not enough for a direct comparison though...for me.
The problem with "devil" following the adjective "white" is that, in addition to the inherent divisiveness of the term, the word implies a spiritual connotation. And the problem with that kind of implication is that, as normally is the case with anything spiritual, it absolves responsibility. It assumes that the actions of White people are beyond their own control and everything they do is due to an inherent fiber in their nature. Personally, as someone who isn't a fan of White people on the whole these days, I refuse to assume that ANYONE, let alone White people, is making decisions independent of their own will.
It's also cliche as fuck, and makes you sound like a bean pie specialist who wears two-tone tuxedos with red bow ties in 95 degree weather.
As far as that channel goes... it's hotep as fuck, but I think there is a discussion to be had about the motives behind some interracial relationships and the historical contexts behind the issue. Willie Lynch is still alive & well in the Black community, after all. However, the discussion has to be had without alienating those who are either in interracial relationships, or were birthed from one.
It's also cliche as fuck, and makes you sound like a bean pie specialist who wears two-tone tuxedos with red bow ties in 95 degree weather.
As far as that channel goes... it's hotep as fuck, but I think there is a discussion to be had about the motives behind some interracial relationships and the historical contexts behind the issue. Willie Lynch is still alive & well in the Black community, after all. However, the discussion has to be had without alienating those who are either in interracial relationships, or were birthed from one.
By jWILL253 Go To PostThe problem with "devil" following the adjective "white" is that, in addition to the inherent divisiveness of the term, the word implies a spiritual connotation. And the problem with that kind of implication is that, as normally is the case with anything spiritual, it absolves responsibility. It assumes that the actions of White people are beyond their own control and everything they do is due to an inherent fiber in their nature. Personally, as someone who isn't a fan of White people on the whole these days, I refuse to assume that ANYONE, let alone White people, is making decisions independent of their own will.
It's also cliche as fuck, and makes you sound like a bean pie specialist who wears two-tone tuxedos with red bow ties in 95 degree weather.
As far as that channel goes… it's hotep as fuck, but I think there is a discussion to be had about the motives behind some interracial relationships and the historical contexts behind the issue. Willie Lynch is still alive & well in the Black community, after all. However, the discussion has to be had without alienating those who are either in interracial relationships, or were birthed from one.
Understood. I agree with alot of what you said. I also agree with some of her thoughts still. What you said about the term white devil makes sense and I have a better understanding on how it is counter productive and cliche. I don't think all of the her videos are hotep... maybe I just need help seeing it. Can your explain I don't wanna take up too much of your time but I want to know more.
How much explaining do you need? It's not "radical", it's hateful and idiotic. I understand the desire to look for guidance in the face of rising nationalism, but this ain't it.
That youtube channel you posted constantly states that all white people are sexual deviants and predators. It takes an example of some criminal, and generalizes. What would you think of a channel who did the same thing about other groups of people?
It is filled with comments such as these:
"I think white people get mad when you talk about their wrong doings because they just want to live a good life before they burn in hell."
"Everytime you look up, these pink booty bastards are up to no good."
"when are this fuckers gonna die off. its obviously that they're an cancer to the world. . . hurry up and die 😡 nasty assess"
"This is way blacks should SEPARATE from these beasts. Their dieases had spread among us God' Chosen. Its only common-sense. Let the blind, token Coons remain with them."
All these liked by over 50 people every time.
Is that the community you want to be a part of?
How can you find legitimacy there?
This is a sect, nothing helpful politically there to fight against racism.
That youtube channel you posted constantly states that all white people are sexual deviants and predators. It takes an example of some criminal, and generalizes. What would you think of a channel who did the same thing about other groups of people?
It is filled with comments such as these:
"I think white people get mad when you talk about their wrong doings because they just want to live a good life before they burn in hell."
"Everytime you look up, these pink booty bastards are up to no good."
"when are this fuckers gonna die off. its obviously that they're an cancer to the world. . . hurry up and die 😡 nasty assess"
"This is way blacks should SEPARATE from these beasts. Their dieases had spread among us God' Chosen. Its only common-sense. Let the blind, token Coons remain with them."
All these liked by over 50 people every time.
Is that the community you want to be a part of?
How can you find legitimacy there?
This is a sect, nothing helpful politically there to fight against racism.
By Gabyskra Go To PostHow much explaining do you need? It's not "radical", it's hateful and idiotic. I understand the desire to look for guidance in the face of rising nationalism, but this ain't it.
That youtube channel you posted constantly states that all white people are sexual deviants and predators. It takes an example of some criminal, and generalizes. What would you think of a channel who did the same thing about other groups of people?
It is filled with comments such as these:
"I think white people get mad when you talk about their wrong doings because they just want to live a good life before they burn in hell."
"Everytime you look up, these pink booty bastards are up to no good."
"when are this fuckers gonna die off. its obviously that they're an cancer to the world. . . hurry up and die 😡 nasty assess"
"This is way blacks should SEPARATE from these beasts. Their dieases had spread among us God' Chosen. Its only common-sense. Let the blind, token Coons remain with them."
All these liked by over 50 people every time.
Is that the community you want to be a part of?
How can you find legitimacy there?
This is a sect, nothing helpful politically there to fight against racism.
I'm not reading the comments in the c-section on these videos. I don't read YT comments cause they are always awful.
The irony of it all, is behaving EXACTLY like the hatred that created the situation.
There is no way someone can tell me that being against mixed relationships isn't only similar but exactly the same hatred no matter the source.
Willie Lynch has nothing to do with interracial dating or marriages, unless someone doesn't date their own for some odd social reasoning..
There is no way someone can tell me that being against mixed relationships isn't only similar but exactly the same hatred no matter the source.
Willie Lynch is still alive & well in the Black community, after all. However, the discussion has to be had without alienating those who are either in interracial relationships, or were birthed from one.
Willie Lynch has nothing to do with interracial dating or marriages, unless someone doesn't date their own for some odd social reasoning..
By blackace Go To PostWillie Lynch has nothing to do with interracial dating or marriages, unless someone doesn't date their own for some odd social reasoning..
Yeah sure, if you ignore history.
There has always been a sect of the Black community that seeks acceptance from the White populace. And some Blacks date Whites exclusively for that reason. Hell, go on Twitter or Facebook some time and see how many Black males say things like "White girls leveling up" or "Black women ain't shit, that's why I date White women." I can honestly say that this isn't the case for most interracial daters, but you can't ignore that there is some self-hate and yearning for acceptance going on.
That's what Willie Lynch was all about: division by creating a culture of colorism & self-hate, as well as implying the idea that either being fairer-skinned or surrounding yourself with White people will earn you acceptance within the White populace.
Again, I'd like to establish that I support interracial dating.
By jWILL253 Go To PostYeah sure, if you ignore history.I don't know how some odd social reasoning isn't exactly that.... But I guess I am just out here ignoring history..
There has always been a sect of the Black community that seeks acceptance from the White populace. And some Blacks date Whites exclusively for that reason. Hell, go on Twitter or Facebook some time and see how many Black males say things like "White girls leveling up" or "Black women ain't shit, that's why I date White women." I can honestly say that this isn't the case for most interracial daters, but you can't ignore that there is some self-hate and yearning for acceptance going on.
That's what Willie Lynch was all about: division by creating a culture of colorism & self-hate, as well as implying the idea that either being fairer-skinned or surrounding yourself with White people will earn you acceptance within the White populace.
Willie Lynch was never about marrying blacks into white culture tho...
By DY_nasty Go To Postyou want to layout white supremacy and detail how this plays into specific past and present trends DO THAT. nobody here would ever try and stop you. quite the opposite - if you bring that level of discussion to any topic i'm willing to guarantee that you'll get the proper dialogue in return.
don't just drop 'white devils' or some other blanket laziness.
I just got into this thread and since I love being the devils advocate (pun intended) Christie is white..... and I am pretty sure he is ok with Satan...... If there was a list of white people you could call "white devil" and Satan (or whatever metaphysical being that you believe represents Evil) would be able to bestow that title on the person Christie would be in the top 100 candidates.....
there I said it
By Zeus Ex Machina Go To PostI just got into this thread and since I love being the devils advocate (pun intended) Christie is white….. and I am pretty sure he is ok with Satan…… If there was a list of white people you could call "white devil" and Satan (or whatever metaphysical being that you believe represents Evil) would be able to bestow that title on the person Christie would be in the top 100 candidates…..you need to open up your pool a bit then, not even being a dick
there I said it
christie is just a dumbass. you acting like genocide as a business isn't every day shit for some people
By DY_nasty Go To Postyou need to open up your pool a bit then, not even being a dick
christie is just a dumbass. you acting like genocide as a business isn't every day shit for some people
This guy is a republican Governor who would be happy as fuck now to be working for Trump, but he is tarnished cause he closed a bridge out of spite and someone's Grandmother died..... I ain't talking all time but he's wayyyyy up there in 2016. Most republican politicians are evil. I mean your argument isn't even that he isn't evil it's just he hasn't committed Genocide......
By Zeus Ex Machina Go To PostThis guy is a republican Governor who would be happy as fuck now to be working for Trump, but he is tarnished cause he closed a bridge out of spite and someone's Grandmother died….. I ain't talking all time but he's wayyyyy up there in 2016. Most republican politicians are evil. I mean your argument isn't even that he isn't evil it's just he hasn't committed Genocide……his argument was he is just a dumbass
By Zeus Ex Machina Go To PostThis guy is a republican Governor who would be happy as fuck now to be working for Trump, but he is tarnished cause he closed a bridge out of spite and someone's Grandmother died….. I ain't talking all time but he's wayyyyy up there in 2016. Most republican politicians are evil. I mean your argument isn't even that he isn't evil it's just he hasn't committed Genocide……even in 2016 he's not one of the most 100 worse people i can think of
being a dumbass doesn't make you evil. hell, christie isn't even the worst republican governor by a HUGE margin
Once you realize the whole spectrum of sociopathic assholery you can discuss levels of shit and be specific about what kind of human shit stain someone is. Evil is just too basic and a kind of religiously inclined asinine descriptor. Least if you call someone a capitalist pig, you're still getting somewhere a bit more specific.
By Tea Go To PostOnce you realize the whole spectrum of sociopathic assholery you can discuss levels of shit and be specific about what kind of human shit stain someone is. Evil is just too basic and a kind of religiously inclined asinine descriptor. Least if you call someone a capitalist pig, you're still getting somewhere a bit more specific.
Yeah, but calling him a pig is a little too spot on the nose. He's fat and probably lied about getting the lapband surgery cause he's a liar that thinks people are stupid and won't notice he is still fat and getting fatter.
Like I understand that discomfort and disgust at the term of White Devil because of its use by Farrakhan and overall connection to the NOI (who are the equivalent of the worst race based evangelical denominations and should be admonished), but come on Christie is a piece of shit whose done his share of evil to his fellow man. Let's not start defending his character as a way to say "he's not evil because he hasn't done some sort of outrageous act". Calling him a devil (white or not) is not crazy to me. Evil comes in a lot of forms. He has a Nixon vibe to him without Nixon's good looks and natural opportunistic tendencies...
And yes I know Nixon was ugly as shit!
No one's defending Christie, they're taking umbrage with the word evil or white devil because those terms are completely asinine. Evil is part of a dichotomy not a spectrum. White devil is just ignoring the depressing reality that is the ability of anyone walking upright to fuck other people over for their own selfishness and opportunity. I hate these terms because they don't get at the meat of the problem. We don't need to exorcise anyone, we need to create better systems and be more vigilant to weed out sociopaths and sociopathic behavior. It also removes our own culpability in these matters. If politicians are evil then what are we when we don't go to polls and vote motherfuckers out of office.
Talking about politics in terms of name calling (evil, fat, ugly, and so on) is a bad look to me. It appears (not saying this is the case) that you don't have a real grasp on why you don't like that person or their policies. Again, I am not saying that is the case but instead of explaining why someone is evil, a devil, stupid and so on it is just Eminem level calling..
By blackace Go To PostTalking about politics in terms of name calling (evil, fat, ugly, and so on) is a bad look to me. It appears (not saying this is the case) that you don't have a real grasp on why you don't like that person or their policies. Again, I am not saying that is the case but instead of explaining why someone is evil, a devil, stupid and so on it is just Eminem level calling..
Honestly I don't know anymore, like we have this perfect example of him being a petty bully (again) and I feel justified with calling him everything under the sun. Like it kind of goes to this idea I've had about how the "when they go low we go High" meme that Michelle Obama made (which on a quick side note is a better slogan than anything Hillary said this year but whatever......) is out of touch with the modern reality of American Politics in the era of the Tea Party. I mean honestly if the opposition is low down dirty enough to promote stories of dem's running pedo rings out of pizzaria after they won the election, why can't dem's call Christie a white devel, or just compare him to something as black and white (in most people's minds) as evil? We all know the facts, why can't we all use the hyperbole is promoting them.
By Tea Go To PostNo one's defending Christie, they're taking umbrage with the word evil or white devil because those terms are completely asinine. Evil is part of a dichotomy not a spectrum. White devil is just ignoring the depressing reality that is the ability of anyone walking upright to fuck other people over for their own selfishness and opportunity. I hate these terms because they don't get at the meat of the problem. We don't need to exorcise anyone, we need to create better systems and be more vigilant to weed out sociopaths and sociopathic behavior. It also removes our own culpability in these matters. If politicians are evil then what are we when we don't go to polls and vote motherfuckers out of office.
I agree, but in a situation like this.... Where we see Christie (again) try and fail to be a petty dictator in his state (like many of his fellow repub Governors across the country). I got to ask what is wrong with someone enjoying the visceral pleasure of calling that asshole evil? We could have a policy debate.... but this isn't even the politics thread. Its a response to that jackass trying to and failing to get revenge AGAIN!
On one hand, the normalization of Republican antisocial policies is a problem, and the Democrats shouldn't have pursued that tactic in 2016 (Hillary making a distinction between Paul Ryan & Trump in the summer). So it's important to chastise. On the other hand, insults serve zero purpose. You don't convince people, you do not have a substantive discussion either.