To be fair, Brock is a shithead, but considering his job is to show up once in a while and beat the piss out of somebody, and he does that well, the fact that he's a bad person personally doesn't really have any impact on the world outside of the offense people feel at it.
It doesn't matter if he's a shit head. Everyone is a shit head to some degree. You'll find a bad story about everyone if you look long enough. Getting upset about people who lie to you for a living because they aren't great people when you don't see them on TV is pretty silly. Imagine if there were microphones and sheet writers in the 70s and 80s in car rides with guys like Dusty and Flair.
People suddenly hating Brock because they thought he was shooting on Orton and maybe called Jericho a fag in a fight that may or may not have even happened is so goofy. People love to work themselves when WWE isn't doing it for them.
People suddenly hating Brock because they thought he was shooting on Orton and maybe called Jericho a fag in a fight that may or may not have even happened is so goofy. People love to work themselves when WWE isn't doing it for them.
It's like how people freaked out about the Hogan thing never mind the fact that Teddy Long said long before that that Ric Flair used to call him nigger boy all the time. But because it's Ric Flair, people don't want to hear it.
https://streamable.com/v7j2
Smackdown's idea of a good angle is a worked shoot between a heel whose entire appeal is that he's a prissy coward who thinks he's the shit and a guy who is not only retired, but legitimately can never wrestle again.
That said, Miz chewing out Bryan and pointing out that his "good" wrestling got him benched is pretty satisfying.
Smackdown's idea of a good angle is a worked shoot between a heel whose entire appeal is that he's a prissy coward who thinks he's the shit and a guy who is not only retired, but legitimately can never wrestle again.
That said, Miz chewing out Bryan and pointing out that his "good" wrestling got him benched is pretty satisfying.
By Snowy Go To Posthttps://streamable.com/v7j2
Smackdown's idea of a good angle is a worked shoot between a heel whose entire appeal is that he's a prissy coward who thinks he's the shit and a guy who is not only retired, but legitimately can never wrestle again.
That said, Miz chewing out Bryan and pointing out that his "good" wrestling got him benched is pretty satisfying.
Shoot Tuesday?
I can't wait to see Work Wednesday!
What was that show? Is that like network thing they do now?
I don't think much of Miz (agree that he's average in the ring) but that was either a legit shoot or the best acting since Flair believed what he was selling on TBS in 87'.
I don't think much of Miz (agree that he's average in the ring) but that was either a legit shoot or the best acting since Flair believed what he was selling on TBS in 87'.
Lol that Miz/Bryan thing. People believing it is a full shoot when Miz is taking time in the middle of a heated argument to plug the shows and his title reign. Unscripted doesn't equal shoot, most of the time at least. Do people forget that this is exactly like their relationship has always been on TV? They had this argument every week on the first season of NXT.
Bryan also had this same argument with Cena in the ring in front of people. If anything, Bryan came off like the asshole, and Miz was justified for going in. It's almost like a double turn.
Bryan also had this same argument with Cena in the ring in front of people. If anything, Bryan came off like the asshole, and Miz was justified for going in. It's almost like a double turn.
It worked better with Cena, though, because it was more about Cena being a merchandise machine and WWE shill than about him not wrestling with MOVEZ enough. That was implied, but it was at least a little bit veiled, diegetically. Here, talking about "WWE style" when Miz beats indie geeks all the time makes zero sense. It's the same problem where Ziggler will complain about "how good" he is and how "held back" he is, but in kayfabe, he's a LOSER, so how is he being held back?
Worked shoots are dumb unless they're on Total Divas.
Worked shoots are dumb unless they're on Total Divas.
The Cena thing wasn't implied at all. Bryan literally said Cena was an entertainer, not a wrestler. This whole thing was a character assasination of Daniel Bryan, as regardless of work or shoot, he came off as a needlessly dickish asshole for no reason other than to feel superior to a working talent.
If it was real (lol), he's just being rude as fuck and bizarrely unprofessional.
It it wasn't real, he's a face GM who picked Miz for his show, but wants to shit on him knowing there can be no physical reprisals against him.
Looks like a decade of overly scripted promos had a benefit after all: Anything that feels remotely off script is viewed as a shoot, and people get invested in something being real again.
If it was real (lol), he's just being rude as fuck and bizarrely unprofessional.
It it wasn't real, he's a face GM who picked Miz for his show, but wants to shit on him knowing there can be no physical reprisals against him.
Looks like a decade of overly scripted promos had a benefit after all: Anything that feels remotely off script is viewed as a shoot, and people get invested in something being real again.
But he never actually talked about Cena "being soft" or having "bad matches" in that feud, though. He was wearing a shirt that was a parody of Cena's shirt at the time and said that he saw John as a parody of a wrestler, a mere entertainer, somebody who could make the WWE money but would never wrestle again if WWE went away, whereas Bryan loved wrestling and would go back to armories and bingo halls in a heartbeat if he didn't have WWE. Anybody with a modicum knowledge about smark shit knows what he was "really" talking about, but it was presented in such a way that he never overtly talked about Cena's workrate or any of that shit, and what was said still made sense for two guys who are on a show where the characters, at least, think their fighting is real.
Speaking of, Bryan/Cena was so good
Look how much thicker and better Bryan looked there than at WM30. Perhaps that extra muscle could have protected him from injuries a bit.
Look how much thicker and better Bryan looked there than at WM30. Perhaps that extra muscle could have protected him from injuries a bit.
It's certainly much better than the Punk/Cena matches. So are the AJ/Cena matches. Punk/Cena is the most overrated feud possibly ever.
That and the matches themselves were sloppy as fuck, because both guys are awkward and not particularly athletic or coordinated. Prime examples of "We're going long, let's just do headlocks for the first 15 minutes".
https://discord.gg/4DUD83C
https://discord.gg/4DUD83C
AJ has a legitimate claim to being the best wrestler of his generation. No mean feat when you consider all the talent that's out there. I know this is a money making business and in ring prowess isn't the be all and end all, but its still a great thing to be known as.
It's hard to argue against him being the best of his generation of Americans. Gets dicier when you factor in Japan. And lucha if you're data. Imagine if AJ had been booked in a promotion that really showcased his talents for more than 2-3 months a year for a decade.
The thing with AJ is that he was, in my opinion, the best wrestler in the world back in 2005. His feuds with Joe and Christopher Daniels were incredible from an in ring perspective. TNA never really capitalised on it like you say. But he's even better now which is amazing if you think about it.
I don't know anything about Lucha. Just never watched it. Japan has a lot of exceptional talents but it boils down to AJ or Tanahashi as the best of the generation for me.
I don't know anything about Lucha. Just never watched it. Japan has a lot of exceptional talents but it boils down to AJ or Tanahashi as the best of the generation for me.
Yeah, Tanahashi is his main competition. As great as Nakamura eventually got, he spent like 10 years as a pretty bland and generic dude. AJ being in TNA was such a negative against him, which makes it even more amazing he's in the running as the top 1-5 guy of his generation.
You know that point when you realize the "IWC" is full of shit and is basically a bunch of basement shut-ins still living at home? When they consider Cody Rhodes wrestling Kurt Angle in front of a couple hundred people an "improvement" over being with the WWE.
More like you're know it/they're full of shit when they acted like it was a huge deal for Cody to be doing his own thing, yet no one has watched or is talking about the matches he's had. Just like they don't give a shit or support Sandow now that he's free of WWE. None of these people will pick up shows with Zack Ryder on them when he gets released, either.
But they will keep watching WWE misuse these allegedly great talents.
But they will keep watching WWE misuse these allegedly great talents.
He's got a cool look and a lot of charisma, but I would agree he isn't doing anything in the ring that 100 other lucha dudes aren't doing as well or better.
By stro Go To PostHe's got a cool look and a lot of charisma, but I would agree he isn't doing anything in the ring that 100 other lucha dudes aren't doing as well or better.
When I think of "it" wrestlers, you can usually find a match or two online that makes you go "oh, I see why this guy is so over with the fans". For Pentagon, I haven't seen that yet. Even the blood match with Vampiro left me thinking "oh wow, Vamp's taking all the bumps and making this kid look good" but as far as Pentagon's performance it could have been done by anyone in a skull mask screaming about "zero fear".
At what point are the Twitter marks and the "IWC" going to realize that the Meltz is basically the wrestling equivalent of this?
Man, they got footage of Hall drunk at TGI Friday's over the weekend. Cops called and he was tossed out for hitting on the bartender and calling her a bitch after she cut him off and refused to serve him. This fucking guy man. No police report but he's such an idiot for like the umpteenth time.
Well, he's an addict, and addicts don't just stop being addicts because they're sober for a while. It's not that they're stupid idiots as much as they have compulsions that are often beyond their control.
Man I love listening to Cornette go off. Still; don't get the whole "Owens won the belt IT'S A NEW ERA!"
Yeah he's had a pretty insane year all things considered. He debuted at the Rumble, wrestled at WrestleMania, had a MOTY candidate with Cena where he won clean, and now has the biggest belt in the company. He deserves it though.
Best thing is comparing him to Balor.
Balor created the Bullet Club, but also ran it into the ground to the point where it had X-Pac heat in the US and Japan. He then signs to WWE with months of hype before his debut and is immediately given the keys to the kingdom, pushed to the top of the line, called the greatest NXT star within months of his debut. Goes on to have the dullest title reign possible where he goes over everyone in the same match regardless of opponent and angle. Gets drafted before Brock, beats 4 guys in his first night on Raw, then wins the title in his first PPV. Is immediately injured.
AJ takes over the Bullet Club, brings it to world wide prominence, is the best guy in the world for 2 years, comes into WWE as a semi-surprise with next to no hype, is put into a losing feud with Chris Jericho for 3 months and seemed destined to be Cesaro tier for his WWE run. Immediately is in the top 5 for merch sales, shows where he was being advertised have increased ticket sales, becomes the most over guy on every show even with poor booking. Puts on two great matches with Roman on PPV. Has a great heel turn and dramatically changed his range of character and work. Beats John Cena twice. Wins the title. Came IN with an injury, has yet to miss a date.
Balor created the Bullet Club, but also ran it into the ground to the point where it had X-Pac heat in the US and Japan. He then signs to WWE with months of hype before his debut and is immediately given the keys to the kingdom, pushed to the top of the line, called the greatest NXT star within months of his debut. Goes on to have the dullest title reign possible where he goes over everyone in the same match regardless of opponent and angle. Gets drafted before Brock, beats 4 guys in his first night on Raw, then wins the title in his first PPV. Is immediately injured.
AJ takes over the Bullet Club, brings it to world wide prominence, is the best guy in the world for 2 years, comes into WWE as a semi-surprise with next to no hype, is put into a losing feud with Chris Jericho for 3 months and seemed destined to be Cesaro tier for his WWE run. Immediately is in the top 5 for merch sales, shows where he was being advertised have increased ticket sales, becomes the most over guy on every show even with poor booking. Puts on two great matches with Roman on PPV. Has a great heel turn and dramatically changed his range of character and work. Beats John Cena twice. Wins the title. Came IN with an injury, has yet to miss a date.
The CWC was pretty incredible. Can't say I've ever watched TJ Perkins before it but he put in some very impressive showings in the latter rounds of the tournament and is as good a champion as any.
Something I noticed and liked was Gran Metallik's suicide dives. Too many wrestlers fire through the ropes and brush the shoulders of their opponent. Metallik gets some proper force behind it. Looks so much better.
On AJ: He's the closest thing WWE has had to Shawn Michaels since his retirement. And tbh I think he's a better wrestler than HBK was.
Something I noticed and liked was Gran Metallik's suicide dives. Too many wrestlers fire through the ropes and brush the shoulders of their opponent. Metallik gets some proper force behind it. Looks so much better.
On AJ: He's the closest thing WWE has had to Shawn Michaels since his retirement. And tbh I think he's a better wrestler than HBK was.
Hickenbottom had something special though. Maybe it was all the coke and somas.
Really happy for AJ, that dude deserves all the success. Imagine next year's WM main event is AJ vs Shinsuke.
Really happy for AJ, that dude deserves all the success. Imagine next year's WM main event is AJ vs Shinsuke.
Imagine a world where HBK wasn't either wildly disappointing or a miserable cunt between 1995-1998. Has there ever been a wrestler whose physical prime was the worst period in his career?