I think we can see what Ten Hag is trying to do, it’s been fairly consistent this season in terms of shape and tactics, and has carried the same weakness. It’s just kind of shit football.
By Oddinho Go To PostI think we can see what Ten Hag is trying to do, it’s been fairly consistent this season in terms of shape and tactics, and has carried the same weakness. It’s just kind of shit football.
Exactly. At the start of the season he said he wanted us to be the best transition team in the world. This is how he thinks he achieves it. But it's shit and full of holes and it's been the exact same since the first game against Wolves this season. The only difference-maker is whether our player quality wins out on the day or not. Tactically we are extremely sub-par.
I'm glad for Mount in any event. Good player who has had an awful time with injury.
He's not the midfielder we should have bought. We needed a deeper lying one who can cover the first two thirds of the pitch and not another 8/10 hybrid. But I hope he kicks on and does well for us, whether it's under Ten Hag or another manager.
He's not the midfielder we should have bought. We needed a deeper lying one who can cover the first two thirds of the pitch and not another 8/10 hybrid. But I hope he kicks on and does well for us, whether it's under Ten Hag or another manager.
He's a fucking terrible manager with no redeeming qualities. Inspires nothing and no one.
If you can't see that then there's no hope for you. Rather be managed by a shoe.
If you can't see that then there's no hope for you. Rather be managed by a shoe.
I think he isn’t *that* bad. He’s at least running a tighter ship than Ole in terms of player cohesion. You don’t see constant leaked stories hinting at fractured relationships.
I think he’s the wrong manager for this era at United though. He doesn’t appear to have the personality profile to lead players through rocky periods, with board-level and ownership changes going on, and a scattershot recruitment strategy.
On Poch, he’s just lost his magic. Was so good at Southampton and Spurs.
I think he’s the wrong manager for this era at United though. He doesn’t appear to have the personality profile to lead players through rocky periods, with board-level and ownership changes going on, and a scattershot recruitment strategy.
On Poch, he’s just lost his magic. Was so good at Southampton and Spurs.
By Scum Go To PostPlasma just wants to watch Chelsea burn.I think they are already.
By WoodenLung Go To Postare we back to poch talk already?GPottz
By Laboured Go To PostExactly. At the start of the season he said he wanted us to be the best transition team in the world. This is how he thinks he achieves it. But it's shit and full of holes and it's been the exact same since the first game against Wolves this season. The only difference-maker is whether our player quality wins out on the day or not. Tactically we are extremely sub-par.
Agree. It is how easy it is to play through you because you wont/can't press up the pitch as a team. I don't know why he won't push the back four up like when they press. Like every other team doing a similar thing, Its weird when it's so obvious. They're obviously being told to sit when the others go to press and while Casemiro is going to shit there's no dm in the world who can cover that space.
By Lego Go To PostHe's a fucking terrible manager with no redeeming qualities. Inspires nothing and no one.Yeah, he's genuinely terrible lol. That he somehow got the United job is funnier and funnier.
If you can't see that then there's no hope for you. Rather be managed by a shoe.
By WoodenLung Go To Postsorry i am not listening to anything with shanks in it.
That was one of my better songs.
This is delusional.
As per his instructions.
Chelsea are in the FA Cup semis. Tottenham with a new manager having lost their greatest ever player are well ahead of us. This is not the barometer for a successful season.
This game was the 41st time this season that was exposed.
This is Ten Hag’s plan. He obviously believes that players like Rashford and Bruno are of good enough individual quality to supersede any tactical instruction, hence why his gameplan is ‘cede lots of shots and hit them on the break’. Over 250 shots in the last dozen games at our goal. That’s absolutely fucking insane, and is not indicative of a lack of player quality, but a tactical set up.
You asked Scum ‘who would get in the Spurs side?’. That’s the wrong question. The only reason we are anywhere near fourth is BECAUSE our individual player quality is good enough. Look at our team versus Villa’s, or West Ham. Are you genuinely suggesting they have a squad of better players than us? Or do they have a more defined tactical set up?
Part of the reason why I believe this lot haven’t turned against Ten Hag is that he so obviously believes in their talents to win football games. If Conte was in charge, they would have revolted, because he is a systems man above all. But Ten Hag clearly tells them to go out there and win because they’re good players.
He said this last night: Many, though, would ask why United find themselves in such circumstances so often. They have conceded 254 shots in their past 12 games, but Ten Hag insisted that does not bother him. “As long as we get results, no.”
This is an insane thing for a top level coach to say - especially given that results over those twelve games include losses at home to Fulham, that City game, and now last night.
I always go back to Bielsa. Man had Phillips and fucking Luke Ayling playing one touch vertical possession football. Why can Ten Hag not do that with players better than Luke Ayling?
Postecoglou has Ben Davies playing in a possession-based team. Why can’t Ten Hag coach Dalot the same way?
Conte had Victor Moses become a fundamental part of a title winning side. Why can’t Ten Hag set his team up in a way that enables his signings - Casemiro, Antony, Hojlund - to thrive? What is the plan when it comes to those players? What tactical brilliance has he come up with that is being hindered by a lack of quality in the playing staff?
In fact, the only success I’ve seen this season is when he gives one of our ostensibly shitter players - McTom - carte blanche to careen forward like a hungry coyote let loose in a Pret, because that suggests there is some level of tactical thought given to McTominay’s profile and skills. And then he’s back to being asked to play in a pivot again for 88 minutes.
That’s not on McTominay. That’s on the manager asking him to do that.
Ten Hag has obviously decided that the way he wants to get results is coinflip football. Cede shots and hope Onana saves them or Maguire and Varane head them away. Cede midfield control and hope Casemiro and McTominay profit from a set piece. Cede sustained deliberate build up and hope Rashford or Bruno or Garnacho act on instinct and do something special. That is the plan every single fucking game, and we’re over 40 games into the season now, stuck on +0 GD, fluking our way into a FA semi with inshallah football and being dominated by the likes of Brentford and Everton because the man has proven himself incapable of coming up with a consistent and sensible tactical set up befitting of our wealth and status.
By Dazenheimer Go To PostI reckon we'll keep him.
And we should. I can see what he's trying to do, our players just can't keep the ball.
As per his instructions.
You want to know what is sustainable? Chopping and changing your manager every time we have a bad season. Still in the fa cup semis with a shot at 5th.
Chelsea are in the FA Cup semis. Tottenham with a new manager having lost their greatest ever player are well ahead of us. This is not the barometer for a successful season.
What this game exposed is we have too many players who are frequently inconsistent, and over reliance on our youth to pull us out of danger.
This game was the 41st time this season that was exposed.
Man like Rash and Bruno doing nothing add to that Mctom and you've a team with too many inconsistent performances to get you through a season.
This is Ten Hag’s plan. He obviously believes that players like Rashford and Bruno are of good enough individual quality to supersede any tactical instruction, hence why his gameplan is ‘cede lots of shots and hit them on the break’. Over 250 shots in the last dozen games at our goal. That’s absolutely fucking insane, and is not indicative of a lack of player quality, but a tactical set up.
You asked Scum ‘who would get in the Spurs side?’. That’s the wrong question. The only reason we are anywhere near fourth is BECAUSE our individual player quality is good enough. Look at our team versus Villa’s, or West Ham. Are you genuinely suggesting they have a squad of better players than us? Or do they have a more defined tactical set up?
These lot don't look or perform any better with a new manager. Kneejerk "sack the manager" anytime there's a poor result or performance is tiresome.
Part of the reason why I believe this lot haven’t turned against Ten Hag is that he so obviously believes in their talents to win football games. If Conte was in charge, they would have revolted, because he is a systems man above all. But Ten Hag clearly tells them to go out there and win because they’re good players.
He said this last night: Many, though, would ask why United find themselves in such circumstances so often. They have conceded 254 shots in their past 12 games, but Ten Hag insisted that does not bother him. “As long as we get results, no.”
This is an insane thing for a top level coach to say - especially given that results over those twelve games include losses at home to Fulham, that City game, and now last night.
I always go back to Bielsa. Man had Phillips and fucking Luke Ayling playing one touch vertical possession football. Why can Ten Hag not do that with players better than Luke Ayling?
Postecoglou has Ben Davies playing in a possession-based team. Why can’t Ten Hag coach Dalot the same way?
Conte had Victor Moses become a fundamental part of a title winning side. Why can’t Ten Hag set his team up in a way that enables his signings - Casemiro, Antony, Hojlund - to thrive? What is the plan when it comes to those players? What tactical brilliance has he come up with that is being hindered by a lack of quality in the playing staff?
In fact, the only success I’ve seen this season is when he gives one of our ostensibly shitter players - McTom - carte blanche to careen forward like a hungry coyote let loose in a Pret, because that suggests there is some level of tactical thought given to McTominay’s profile and skills. And then he’s back to being asked to play in a pivot again for 88 minutes.
That’s not on McTominay. That’s on the manager asking him to do that.
Ten Hag has obviously decided that the way he wants to get results is coinflip football. Cede shots and hope Onana saves them or Maguire and Varane head them away. Cede midfield control and hope Casemiro and McTominay profit from a set piece. Cede sustained deliberate build up and hope Rashford or Bruno or Garnacho act on instinct and do something special. That is the plan every single fucking game, and we’re over 40 games into the season now, stuck on +0 GD, fluking our way into a FA semi with inshallah football and being dominated by the likes of Brentford and Everton because the man has proven himself incapable of coming up with a consistent and sensible tactical set up befitting of our wealth and status.
By Scum Go To PostG. Jesus on Easter Sunday? Pray for Man City.
He Is Risen (from injury)
Ten Hag isn't a bad coach by any means. We've seen what he can do at Ajax and even last season at United where he clearly had a plan to bring the team from a lower base to where it could challenge for trophies again.
This season has been poor and I don't think he'll last to see a third season. That's the nature of the sport. Weakness is pounced upon there's no let up until you're gone. What annoys me is so many of our own fans gleeful at the prospect of it happening. It's all so stupid. Seen it on here as well. All I feel is more disappointment at another promising spell gone to shit.
This season has been poor and I don't think he'll last to see a third season. That's the nature of the sport. Weakness is pounced upon there's no let up until you're gone. What annoys me is so many of our own fans gleeful at the prospect of it happening. It's all so stupid. Seen it on here as well. All I feel is more disappointment at another promising spell gone to shit.
By Cleff Go To PostTen Hag isn't a bad coach by any means. We've seen what he can do at Ajax and even last season at United where he clearly had a plan to bring the team from a lower base to where it could challenge for trophies again.
This season has been poor and I don't think he'll last to see a third season. That's the nature of the sport. Weakness is pounced upon there's no let up until you're gone. What annoys me is so many of our own fans gleeful at the prospect of it happening. It's all so stupid. Seen it on here as well.
Don't worry, a season under Southgate will be sobering.
By Cleff Go To PostLMAO.“Preferred coaching staff” i.e. his son
There'll be fucken books written about how bad our appointment process is.
By Scum Go To PostG. Jesus on Easter Sunday? Pray for Man City.More interested to see if Martinelli starts, not sure Jesus even starts at the moment upfront. Maybe on the wing if Saka is injured.
By Dazenheimer Go To PostDon't worry, a season under Southgate will be sobering.
‘waiter, you’ve given me a pile of steaming horse shit on a plate’
‘don’t complain m8, i’ll go get you the tumbler of gorilla spunk if you want’
Just posting this as a way to bring I was measured at GP during the week and I am confirmed 6 ft 7. 201cm. I am the daddy of slaent
Saka didn't make the cut?
By n8 dogg Go To Post‘waiter, you’ve given me a pile of steaming horse shit on a plate’
‘don’t complain m8, i’ll go get you the tumbler of gorilla spunk if you want’
Count me as someone who doesn't think ETH is a bad manager, but someone who is just not the right fit with the squad.
The club has been in shambles from top to bottom that I think it's pointless to point to him as the main reason for how it is, and I think it's going to take a few years at least to right itself. So in a way, it needs a manager who can stop the ship from sinking until it reaches the port.
The only thing that matters is if the players are listening and fully behind the manager. At this point it doesn't look like they are, so I'm fine if he is fired/leaves.
The club has been in shambles from top to bottom that I think it's pointless to point to him as the main reason for how it is, and I think it's going to take a few years at least to right itself. So in a way, it needs a manager who can stop the ship from sinking until it reaches the port.
The only thing that matters is if the players are listening and fully behind the manager. At this point it doesn't look like they are, so I'm fine if he is fired/leaves.
By Punished Go To PostJust posting this as a way to bring I was measured at GP during the week and I am confirmed 6 ft 7. 201cm. I am the daddy of slaentIf you’re gonna lie m8, at least pick a reasonable height.
By Punished Go To Postyou must hit your head a lot.
Just posting this as a way to bring I was measured at GP during the week and I am confirmed 6 ft 7. 201cm. I am the daddy of slaent
Lol, Sunak is smol, then again, everyone in that pic is over 6' 2".
By Dazenheimer Go To Postyou must hit your head a lot.Declan is 6’1. Kane is 6’2.
Lol, Sunak is smol, then again, everyone in that pic is over 6' 2".
