By Not Go To PostThey did OK on the harsh savanna for millions of yearsSwaddled in layers. And infant mortality rates back in the day are precisely why people make the mistake of thinking life spans were so short. Averaging those in fucks it up. Also rip Warriors of the last years.
I don't understand the hyperbole on Nurse, D'Antoni, etc.
Why do people expect great coaches to bat a perfect game? Why don't we just acknowledge that greatness might include making some terrible mistakes? Even Jordan missed shots.
Why do people expect great coaches to bat a perfect game? Why don't we just acknowledge that greatness might include making some terrible mistakes? Even Jordan missed shots.
By Gaby Go To PostI don't understand the hyperbole on Nurse, D'Antoni, etc.
Why do people expect great coaches to bat a perfect game? Why don't we just acknowledge that greatness might include making some terrible mistakes? Even Jordan missed shots.
Uh calling a TO when your star player scored 10 unanswered points in a row in the closing minutes of WINNING A CHIP is not a small mistake.
It's not a coincidence that he didn't score after that TO, which allowed GS to regain themselves and stop the WIN of a CHIP. On your HC.
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostDidn’t Lowry signal for the timeout?Lowry and Leonard were gassed.
Nurse said he’d lose that timeout if they didn’t call it? The fuck was he talking about
He shook x Kawhi needs manu, tony and Tim to close the series
He shook x Kawhi needs manu, tony and Tim to close the series
By friskykillface Go To PostNurse said he’d lose that timeout if they didn’t call it? The fuck was he talking about
He shook x Kawhi needs manu, tony and Tim to close the series
Past the 3 min mark you're reduced to 2 TOs regardless even if you have extra.
He can say what he wants that was a huge error.
By friskykillface Go To PostNurse said he’d lose that timeout if they didn’t call it? The fuck was he talking aboutkill our momentum or waste a timeout.
He shook x Kawhi needs manu, tony and Tim to close the series
such a gigantic derp moment.
By Gaby Go To PostLowry and Leonard were gassed.
Thought Kawhi had a V8 engine for lungs. Needs to work on his conditioning for sure.
Warriors in games with Marc Davis (lead ref tonight) are 3-5.
Toronto in games with Marc Davis are 9-0.
Same dude who missed 3 goaltending calls for the Warriors in game 3
Also Draymond has 6 techs throughout the playoffs, 1 more and he'd be suspended for game 7 if we get there. he's a f*cking idiot if he gets his 7th tonight
Toronto in games with Marc Davis are 9-0.
Same dude who missed 3 goaltending calls for the Warriors in game 3
Also Draymond has 6 techs throughout the playoffs, 1 more and he'd be suspended for game 7 if we get there. he's a f*cking idiot if he gets his 7th tonight
By aka Espi Go To PostPlease Lord, I know we don’t speak often but let Draymond get his 7th tech tonight 🙏🏽I like you. keep posting.
Silver has probably made the call so we'll see Dray damn near spit on a ref the entire game before a slight bump forces them to call it.
By Smokey Go To Postfrfr go back and watch that Kawhi explosion and that building. How do you call a TO and let GS regroup off that.His reasoning for calling it is solid enough.
Now they got towels repping KD and shyt. might be over for the Raps tbh
Just a bad call in retrospect.
By giririsss Go To PostHis reasoning for calling it is solid enough.blaming the head coach for anything/everything sure seems to be a rising trend though
Just a bad call in retrospect.
If someone on your team is signaling for a TO how do you not call one? If you don't call that TO and GS still comes back then it's "he called for a TO and he was gassed, why did you not give your players some rest"
By diehard Go To Postblaming the head coach for anything/everything sure seems to be a rising trend though
Requires less effort.
By aka Espi Go To PostIf someone on your team is signaling for a TO how do you not call one? If you don't call that TO and GS still comes back then it's "he called for a TO and he was gassed, why did you not give your players some rest"Yeah, and if he doesn't call it then, but calls it next play when he loses the TO, then toronto don't have the TO's they need at the end of the game.
Or if lowry / leonard got hurt because they were gassed ....
In retrospect it's easy to slam the call. The reasoning is solid enough so it's hard to fault it to much.
I was slamming it when it happened ain't nothing retrospect about it. If you want to stop your momentum which by the way is about to carry you to a chip in 3 minutes vs losing a TO then sure.
My point being, you as the team riding the momentum in that situation don't call a TO and stop the game. Let GSW do that they're the ones on the ropes and if they don't well you keep playing. You're the one with the crowd and Kawhi going insane.
Kawhi had it rolling and we had them on the ropes. We wanted to keep riding him and the momentum in the building. Sounds infinitely better than we didn't want to lose a timeout.
My point being, you as the team riding the momentum in that situation don't call a TO and stop the game. Let GSW do that they're the ones on the ropes and if they don't well you keep playing. You're the one with the crowd and Kawhi going insane.
By aka Espi Go To PostIf someone on your team is signaling for a TO how do you not call one? If you don't call that TO and GS still comes back then it's "he called for a TO and he was gassed, why did you not give your players some rest"
Kawhi had it rolling and we had them on the ropes. We wanted to keep riding him and the momentum in the building. Sounds infinitely better than we didn't want to lose a timeout.
Hold up
Is this the same Smokey that lambasts D'Antoni for not calling a timeout to draw up a play in similar situations but now is talking that shit on Nick Nurse for calling a timeout to draw up a play when his own players were asking him to do so?
Is this the same Smokey that lambasts D'Antoni for not calling a timeout to draw up a play in similar situations but now is talking that shit on Nick Nurse for calling a timeout to draw up a play when his own players were asking him to do so?
By Smokey Go To PostI was slamming it when it happened ain't nothing retrospect about it. If you want to stop your momentum which by the way is about to carry you to a chip in 3 minutes vs losing a TO then sure.The momentum argument is valid. But so is Nurse's reasoning.
My point being, you as the team riding the momentum in that situation don't call a TO and stop the game. Let GSW do that they're the ones on the ropes and if they don't well you keep playing. You're the one with the crowd and Kawhi going insane.
Kawhi had it rolling and we had them on the ropes. We wanted to keep riding him and the momentum in the building. Sounds infinitely better than we didn't want to lose a timeout.
You can slam it in the moment, but also accept it's solid reasoning later. You can even stand by the fact you would have ridden the momentum.
But trying to use the definitive "they lost the chip" "it would have won them the chip" ... you don't actually know any of that. There are multiple scenarios where it goes either way. What if leonard due to being gassed comes down, trys for a lay up, but lands awkward due to being tired and re-argivates his thigh injury and can't play the rest of the series, or next season.
Would be an entirely different narrative then.
The reasoning is fine, the players needed the rest, and tactically, it saves them TO's for later. You're right, one would have expected GSW to call a time out. But they didn't.
By reilo Go To PostHold up
Is this the same Smokey that lambasts D'Antoni for not calling a timeout to draw up a play in similar situations but now is talking that shit on Nick Nurse for calling a timeout to draw up a play when his own players were asking him to do so?
YES
Nurse timeout thing only looks bad in retrospect because they cocked up the end of the game. If Raps didn’t mess up and won it no one would care. Dude has outcoached everyone he’s come up against in the playoffs.
By reilo Go To PostHold up
Is this the same Smokey that lambasts D'Antoni for not calling a timeout to draw up a play in similar situations but now is talking that shit on Nick Nurse for calling a timeout to draw up a play when his own players were asking him to do so?
Yeah because going at Dantoni for not calling TOs when teams go on runs against him is the same as taking momentum away from your own squad on the brink of a chip. But sure.
By giririsss Go To PostThe momentum argument is valid. But so is Nurse's reasoning.
You can slam it in the moment, but also accept it's solid reasoning later. You can even stand by the fact you would have ridden the momentum.
But trying to use the definitive "they lost the chip" "it would have won them the chip" … you don't actually know any of that. There are multiple scenarios where it goes either way. What if leonard due to being gassed comes down, trys for a lay up, but lands awkward due to being tired and re-argivates his thigh injury and can't play the rest of the series, or next season.
Would be an entirely different narrative then.
The reasoning is fine, the players needed the rest, and tactically, it saves them TO's for later. You're right, one would have expected GSW to call a time out. But they didn't.
There's always a different narrative in wouldve couldves. That doesn't absolve him from a terrible decision.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostNurse timeout thing only looks bad in retrospect because they cocked up the end of the game. If Raps didn’t mess up and won it no one would care. Dude has outcoached everyone he’s come up against in the playoffs.
That's how it works. Pop left Tim Duncan out of the game against the Heat in G6 of the 2013 Finals, during key defensive possessions down the stretch. If they would've won chip, the narrative would be how much of a smart coach he is by having more speed and athleticism on the court, and nobody else would have the guts to do what Pop did with Duncan etc
But it aint go down like that.
By reilo Go To PostHold up
Is this the same Smokey that lambasts D'Antoni for not calling a timeout to draw up a play in similar situations but now is talking that shit on Nick Nurse for calling a timeout to draw up a play when his own players were asking him to do so?
Kawahi to Van Fleet, who finds Kyle Lowry:
By Pac-12 Go To PostI bet blackace is pro-vaccination, too.No signs of autism yet!
By Smokey Go To PostThere's always a different narrative in wouldve couldves. That doesn't absolve him from a terrible decision..
Except that you're the one playing would'a, could'a, didn't.
The decision is fine. And i probably side with you, he should have let it run. But it's far from terrible.
Yes giri. would'a could'as are usually a part of sports discussion
DON'T DO THAT SHIT TONIGHT NICK, KTHX
DON'T DO THAT SHIT TONIGHT NICK, KTHX
By DY_nasty Go To Postwhat kind of coach ices their own mvp while foot is currently on neckthe nurse kind, thats who.
and who the fuck wastes a Timeout?
not Nick Nurse!
By Smokey Go To PostYes giri. would'a could'as are usually a part of sports discussion3sp, that you?
DON'T DO THAT SHIT TONIGHT NICK, KTHX
By DY_nasty Go To Postwhat kind of coach ices their own mvp while foot is currently on neckthis is one step away from "get it to the hot hand!"
By diehard Go To Postthis is one step away from "get it to the hot hand!"but the hand was hot and deep in that ass
timeout. too much sauce guys remember to play the right way
By diehard Go To Postthis is one step away from "get it to the hot hand!"Which is what you are suppose to do?
By DY_nasty Go To Postbut the hand was hot and deep in that assThis was the play after the timeout
timeout. too much sauce guys remember to play the right way
https://stats.nba.com/events/?flag=1&GameID=0041800405&GameEventID=609&Season=2018-19&title=Green%20P.FOUL%20(P5.T2)%20(J.Capers)&sct=plot
and after the foul:
https://stats.nba.com/events/?flag=1&GameID=0041800405&GameEventID=611&Season=2018-19&title=MISS%20Leonard%2011%27%20Turnaround%20Fadeaway%20Shot&sct=plot
what part of that is play the right way?
By blackace Go To PostWhich is what you are suppose to do?There is a lot of evidence to suggest that there really is no such thing
also, they did.. he took the next shot.
After he iced his team
http://ruvid.org/ri-world/mathematical-proof-for-hot-hand-shooting-in-basketball/
http://ruvid.org/ri-world/mathematical-proof-for-hot-hand-shooting-in-basketball/
By diehard Go To PostThis was the play after the timeoutIs rhythm and momentum lost on yal
https://stats.nba.com/events/?flag=1&GameID=0041800405&GameEventID=609&Season=2018-19&title=Green%20P.FOUL%20(P5.T2)%20(J.Capers)&sct=plot
and after the foul:
https://stats.nba.com/events/?flag=1&GameID=0041800405&GameEventID=611&Season=2018-19&title=MISS%20Leonard%2011%27%20Turnaround%20Fadeaway%20Shot&sct=plot
what part of that is play the right way?
There is a lot of evidence to suggest that there really is no such thing
also, they did.. he took the next shot.
By diehard Go To Postwhat part of that is play the right way?
There is a lot of evidence to suggest that there really is no such thing
A hot hand is a thing diehardpls
By DY_nasty Go To PostIs rhythm and momentum lost on yal
I'm sayin
Or is that not a thing now because you can't quantify it
By DY_nasty Go To PostIs rhythm and momentum lost on yal
Is whiteness a reasonable excuse?
By Smokey Go To PostA hot hand is a thing diehardplsevidence tho
By Pac-12 Go To PostIs whiteness a reasonable excuse?Nerdball is a reasonable excuse
damn next time some team doesnt take a timeout and gets off some dumbass shot i'm gonna be bringing it up because i will clearly have evidence
The idea that player X just has to get the next shot because he made 3 in a row is trash
By Smokey Go To PostA hot hand is a thing diehardplsIt's really not that simple though. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents-19573519/heating-fire-klay-thompson-truth-hot-hand-nba
The idea that player X just has to get the next shot because he made 3 in a row is trash