By unemployed sy Go To Postim not arguing that joker is harmful or whatever. I'm of the opinion that a large part of breaking bad's audience actively think Walt did nothing wrong and that he's the good guyYeah and people have been cheering for Tony Montana.
Dumb folks not getting the message or having a flawed world view and seeing it confirmed (despite the opposite happening) shouldn't be our problem.
You say that, but the amount of men in their 40/50s at my work who obsessed with that, was really quite something. Walter White profile photos and shit.
this is walt ends up having ruined everyone's lives and living in complete despair for what he's done
joker doesnt, meaning i guess it was good that he rose up against society
joker doesnt, meaning i guess it was good that he rose up against society
Walt had a horrible run near the end, so while I think he was written to get people to cheer they showed how his actions and pride destroyed everyone he came in contact with
By Xpike Go To Postthis is walt ends up having ruined everyone's lives and living in complete despair for what he's done
joker doesnt, meaning i guess it was good that he rose up against society
I have a hard time seeing how everything isn't fucked up and bad around the joker as well. Not to mention for himself. Not that I think it has to be that way, to not be this great danger to society, but.. It kind of is.
I definitely cheered for Walt to win. Collateral damage be damned
Anyway Joker was very average. Glad I saw it but it’s not gonna stick with me any longer than your average Taco Bell meal.
Anyway Joker was very average. Glad I saw it but it’s not gonna stick with me any longer than your average Taco Bell meal.
Yeah with Tony, Walter, Jordan you all got to see the downfall/impact/destruction in a kind of morbid way. If the joker is like a massive fuck you because reasons vibe then yeah probably something we could do without in an ideal world.
i do think its worrying how apparently the only movies people discuss the cultural implications of are super hero movies anymore
By Kidjr Go To PostYeah with Tony, Walter, Jordan you all got to see the downfall/impact/destruction in a kind of morbid way. If the joker is like a massive fuck you because reasons vibe then yeah probably something we could do without in an ideal world.Might as well ban every horror movie, right?
Actually I'd say in an ideal world you could explore all manner of subjects. without having to worry about greater implications. That being said assholes are always gonna have some sort of idol. You can ask that creators not malign already subjudated people and be more careful with serious/"taboo" subjects but in the end people are just gonna construe some shit how they wanna. See: religion and religious texts.
By Kidjr Go To PostYeah with Tony, Walter, Jordan you all got to see the downfall/impact/destruction in a kind of morbid way. If the joker is like a massive fuck you because reasons vibe then yeah probably something we could do without in an ideal world.
But this movie absolutely has those aspects as well. However even if it didn't, why should we be without it or act like it's dangerous? Although I do know you live in one of the ultimate nanny states of the world, where movies like salo were also banned for forever (a movie where nothing bad actually happens to the bad guys), but the UK even got over that in the end.
I'm sorry and this will be my last words on the movie, which I will say I didn't think was great, but I do think it's ridiculous to claim it being dangerous. Just like heavy metal wasn't when describing dumb power fantasies, even if some people used that as an excuse for their fucked up actions, or gta for that matter.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostWasn't expecting the level of gore in Bone Tomahawk, goes hard.the gore is the only memorable thing about the movie
By i can get you a toe Go To PostHonestly a large part of BB's audience are young dumbfucks so there's that too. Sometimes you gotta remember what spaces you're in. Much of the internet is young and male, so that's the skew you're going to have on media. Fuck I feel old.Yep.
Also see; Rick and Morty.
By Wahabipapangus Go To PostBut this movie absolutely has those aspects as well. However even if it didn't, why should we be without it or act like it's dangerous? Although I do know you live in one of the ultimate nanny states of the world, where movies like salo were also banned for forever (a movie where nothing bad actually happens to the bad guys), but the UK even got over that in the end.
I'm sorry and this will be my last words on the movie, which I will say I didn't think was great, but I do think it's ridiculous to claim it being dangerous. Just like heavy metal wasn't when describing dumb power fantasies, even if some people used that as an excuse for their fucked up actions, or gta for that matter.
Oh I dont think it should be banned just think in ideal world the timing would be different
By Wahabipapangus Go To PostBut this movie absolutely has those aspects as well. However even if it didn't, why should we be without it or act like it's dangerous? Although I do know you live in one of the ultimate nanny states of the world, where movies like salo were also banned for forever (a movie where nothing bad actually happens to the bad guys), but the UK even got over that in the end.Maybe I'm forgetting the movie, but where do you ever actually see the negative impact of his actions?
I'm sorry and this will be my last words on the movie, which I will say I didn't think was great, but I do think it's ridiculous to claim it being dangerous. Just like heavy metal wasn't when describing dumb power fantasies, even if some people used that as an excuse for their fucked up actions, or gta for that matter.
There's a lot of eat the rich sentiment that gets borne out, but it's celebrated. Wanton murder justified and never inspected. Sure you can say it doesn't need to, I'll disagree, but that's your prerogative, but I just can't see where it was in the movie
I read about Gary Glitter a few hours ago and it was incredible that he ran away to Spain after the child pornography scandal came out and changed his name to.... Larry Brilliante.
By Laboured Go To PostWhew, Midsommar was freaking gud.Please know that we [Swedes] do not all go batshit crazy during those festivities.
Only when we've had some lingonberries.
By batong Go To PostPlease know that we [Swedes] do not all go batshit crazy during those festivities.whatever it takes to make some good watches, chocolate and cheese.
Only when we've had some lingonberries.
By batong Go To PostPlease know that we [Swedes] do not all go batshit crazy during those festivities.Only in Malmö
Only when we've had some lingonberries.
By Kawhic Go To Postwhatever it takes to make some good watches, chocolate and cheese.
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By n8 dogg Go To PostOutstanding article
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/10/todd-phillips-joker-rewatching-taxi-driver
It’s late and I can’t be bothered to make a big post, but you can add that article to the pile of ‘the movie has no substance’ articles that again fail to address the role the media plays in the film. I think if the film is trying to say anything, it’s trying to say something about the media. There are so many shots of TV’s, newspapers, in that universe the Joker wouldn’t have been created without the media.
Not to say Todd Phillips is some kind of mastermind, he isn’t. But I think there is more substance there than what it is being given credit for.
Watched a bunch of movies yesterday.
Dog Day Afternoon was great. Amazing performance by Pacino and nearly everyone involved. Can't believe I missed this movie for so long, but I guess due the nature of the movie and the age, it's not really something that gets mentioned alot.
Prisoners was pretty good. Denis Villeneuve is really versatile. A few things could have been done better, but considering that was his first "hollywood" movie, that was really damn good.
Spider-Man Far from Home was decent. Gyllenhaal was better than the typical Marvel villain, but still just touched upon the character on the surface.
Rest was solid and visually really good, but I'm getting really bored of the formula now and I haven't even watched that many Marvel flicks.
Invasion of the Body Snatchers is kind of hilarious. While you see the age of the movie, it holds up regardless of that.
Haven't seen the original and I'm not planning to, but I read about the differences and the version with Goldblum, Sutherland, Nimoy sounds alot more appealing, since they're pulling it off really well overall.
Dog Day Afternoon was great. Amazing performance by Pacino and nearly everyone involved. Can't believe I missed this movie for so long, but I guess due the nature of the movie and the age, it's not really something that gets mentioned alot.
Prisoners was pretty good. Denis Villeneuve is really versatile. A few things could have been done better, but considering that was his first "hollywood" movie, that was really damn good.
Spider-Man Far from Home was decent. Gyllenhaal was better than the typical Marvel villain, but still just touched upon the character on the surface.
Rest was solid and visually really good, but I'm getting really bored of the formula now and I haven't even watched that many Marvel flicks.
Invasion of the Body Snatchers is kind of hilarious. While you see the age of the movie, it holds up regardless of that.
Haven't seen the original and I'm not planning to, but I read about the differences and the version with Goldblum, Sutherland, Nimoy sounds alot more appealing, since they're pulling it off really well overall.
Saw a few films at LFF: the Steve Coogan/Michael Winterbottom take on Phillip Green, Greed, Korean bodyswap comedy The Dude in Me and Singaporean indie romance Wet Season.
I was most looking forward to Greed because of the pairs previous work together on The Trip; while Greed is still good, it is sadly a long way off from matching the Trip. Like Phillip Green himself, the film ends up quite broad and vulgar. The comedy lands and the cast is generally great, but don't go expect a biting satire. There's also some muddled themes, with the film attempting to pin a lot of blame for the general fast fashion industry on Green (or at least on Coogan's character) while clearly understanding that the fashion industry is vastly larger than a small fry like Green. At the same time, they easily skewer him for his asset stripping and tax evasion, so its really not clear why they bothered with the fast fashion angle except it recently having become a talking point.
The Dude in Me has been out for a while in Korea so some might have seen it already; for those who haven't, the basic idea is Korean Kiryu Kazuma switches places with K-pop star in a fat suit, hijinks ensue, he learns his classmate is an unknown daughter, life lessons are learned along with some hijinks. The setup is all fairly formulaic, but I don't want to appear down on the film, as in the end it executes everything well enough and most importantly is fairly funny. It translates seemlessly as well, probably the most korean aspect of the film was when they decided half way through that the k-pop star had been fat long enough, so he has a brief training montage and loses around 40kg in what must have been 2 weeks.
Wet Season is another that doesn't stray too far from standard ideas, but still delivers a good core film. It's a character study, with the focus on a teacher stuck in a loveless marriage and unable to conceive children, who gets entangled in a brief fling with one of her students, who himself is without proper familial affection due to his parents constant business trips. Nothing will really surprise you here, but the two leads are strong (amusingly, they had both appeared in the director's previous film, but as mother and son, such that on this film the boy would refer the actress as mummy until the director couldn't take it and forced him to stop) and its very engrossing. The film also managed to layer in cultural aspects quite well, such that it will probably mean more to Singaporean and Malaysian viewers but is still an accessible look into those cultures for outsiders.
All 3 are recommended if you have the chance, but I wouldn't compel anyone to seek them out.
I was most looking forward to Greed because of the pairs previous work together on The Trip; while Greed is still good, it is sadly a long way off from matching the Trip. Like Phillip Green himself, the film ends up quite broad and vulgar. The comedy lands and the cast is generally great, but don't go expect a biting satire. There's also some muddled themes, with the film attempting to pin a lot of blame for the general fast fashion industry on Green (or at least on Coogan's character) while clearly understanding that the fashion industry is vastly larger than a small fry like Green. At the same time, they easily skewer him for his asset stripping and tax evasion, so its really not clear why they bothered with the fast fashion angle except it recently having become a talking point.
The Dude in Me has been out for a while in Korea so some might have seen it already; for those who haven't, the basic idea is Korean Kiryu Kazuma switches places with K-pop star in a fat suit, hijinks ensue, he learns his classmate is an unknown daughter, life lessons are learned along with some hijinks. The setup is all fairly formulaic, but I don't want to appear down on the film, as in the end it executes everything well enough and most importantly is fairly funny. It translates seemlessly as well, probably the most korean aspect of the film was when they decided half way through that the k-pop star had been fat long enough, so he has a brief training montage and loses around 40kg in what must have been 2 weeks.
Wet Season is another that doesn't stray too far from standard ideas, but still delivers a good core film. It's a character study, with the focus on a teacher stuck in a loveless marriage and unable to conceive children, who gets entangled in a brief fling with one of her students, who himself is without proper familial affection due to his parents constant business trips. Nothing will really surprise you here, but the two leads are strong (amusingly, they had both appeared in the director's previous film, but as mother and son, such that on this film the boy would refer the actress as mummy until the director couldn't take it and forced him to stop) and its very engrossing. The film also managed to layer in cultural aspects quite well, such that it will probably mean more to Singaporean and Malaysian viewers but is still an accessible look into those cultures for outsiders.
All 3 are recommended if you have the chance, but I wouldn't compel anyone to seek them out.
Just saw The Death Of Dick Long. I knew it was a redneck dark comedy but I didn't expect to go like that.
It was pretty good, definitely worth a watch.
It was pretty good, definitely worth a watch.
Saw Earthquake Bird at LFF last night. It was okay. Felt a bit unoriginal, and was shot and graded like your average Marvel film. How they managed to make Tokyo look quite so bland is a mystery.
Alicia Vikander was there though, and I was sat in front of Ridley Scott. So that was nice.
Alicia Vikander was there though, and I was sat in front of Ridley Scott. So that was nice.
By WJD Go To PostSaw Earthquake Bird at LFF last night. It was okay. Felt a bit unoriginal, and was shot and graded like your average Marvel film. How they managed to make Tokyo look quite so bland is a mystery.
Alicia Vikander was there though, and I was sat in front of Ridley Scott. So that was nice.
Did u get to touch her abs?
By Laboured Go To PostDid u get to touch her abs?Can I touch WJDs abs if he did that? You know, by proxy and all that.
By batong Go To PostCan I touch WJDs abs if he did that? You know, by proxy and all that.It's very kind of you to assume that I have abs
By WJD Go To PostIt's very kind of you to assume that I have absEveryone's got a little bit of oblique in them
The more I think of The Death Of Dick Long the more I like it.
It's a shame that movie will probably be overlooked by a lot of people as it's a terrific little gem.
Might be my second favourite movie of the year behind Parasite.
It's a shame that movie will probably be overlooked by a lot of people as it's a terrific little gem.
Might be my second favourite movie of the year behind Parasite.
By Flutter Go To Postoh damnStar Wars fucking sucks
Damn, Robert Forster dying on the same day El Camino comes out. His performance in Jackie Brown is one of my favourites.
Saw The Art Of Self Defense last night. It was darker than I expected and I guessed the twist right at the beginning but it was pretty good nonetheless, like a very dark Karate Kid filled with a satire of toxic masculinity.