Was quite enjoying the Independent podcast until they agreed that Roy Hodgson would be better at United right now than Jose.
The Hodgson history rewrite is absurd.
The Hodgson history rewrite is absurd.
By Arnie Go To PostWas quite enjoying the Independent podcast until they agreed that Roy Hodgson would be better at United right now than Jose.Don't be absurd, Hodgson is just what United need. In fact, let's start a Twitter campaign right now
The Hodgson history rewrite is absurd.
By Wahabipapangus Go To PostHodgson has been successful with massive clubs before, like CopenhagenEven bigger clubs, like Halmstad Bollklubb.
By Cleff Go To Post
classic.
By Cleff Go To Post
I thought that was footage of Hart’s first training session with Pep.
By Plasma Go To PostBear in mind that is probably top speed, but players will rarely have the space to reach those kinds of speeds. Acceleration is what makes players seem.fast on a football pitch. Emre Can was the same at Liverpool, one of the fastest players at his top speed but moving like a tanker on the pitch.Sokratis is almost as fast as Bellerin, wut.
Afternoon, lads. Has Pocket Tuna left yet?
Xhaka was managed by Wenger.
No surprises there, innit.
By Plasma Go To PostI think it says a lot about Xhaka that Guendouzi a 19 year old who only played 18 games in Ligue 2 last year can turn up and look a better player than he is.Guendouzi is been managed and coached by Emery.
Xhaka was managed by Wenger.
No surprises there, innit.
By batong Go To PostEven bigger clubs, like Halmstad Bollklubb.That feeling when you're watching HBK at home and Gefle, 2nd bottom of Superettan, make it 1-2 in the 91st minute.
feelsbadman.jpeg
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostI was told it is stupid to talk about stats after two games into a new season.That remains correct
By Fergie Go To Post2 games in m8.
By sohois Go To PostThat remains correct
It seems stupid to criticise stat websites from talking about stats. Should whoscore not provide any content for weeks?
The great thing about the touches in the opponent box stat is that Doicore can't talk about bad breaks of the ball in the box because United have had no ball in the box ;p
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostIt seems stupid to criticise stat websites from talking about stats. Should whoscore not provide any content for weeks?They can do whatever they want, but you shouldn't pay any attention to it
By Fergie Go To Post
this is what happens when you don't bring in alderweireld
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostI was told it is stupid to talk about stats after two games into a new season.I think stats are somewhat hard to normalise at this point given how different the quality of teams played so far are. That further highlights these stats though, seeing as United played two mid-to-lower-table teams
Lucas Torreira is simultaneously the slowest AND the smallest player for Arsenal? How does that happen?
By bud Go To Postthis is what happens when you don't bring in alderweireldbe gentle
By sohois Go To PostThey can do whatever they want, but you shouldn't pay any attention to it
Why? It shows that Guen is doing what is asked of him. It might not last, but it is encoraging to see that he is performing at a higher level than a more experience teammate(one who is often criticised)
I understand not reading to much into things this early, but you should pay attention to it.
By JesalR Go To PostI think stats are somewhat hard to normalise at this point given how different the quality of teams played so far are. That further highlights these stats though, seeing as United played two mid-to-lower-table teams
I agree, for league wide stats. But the whoscored article I originally quoted was mainly comparing him with Arsenal teammates. Guen is the combined tackle and interception leader in the league, but that is because of the teams faced as you righly pointed out. However, it is him and not Xhaka that is leading that category, and I find that encouraging.
By Meier Go To PostLucas Torreira is simultaneously the slowest AND the smallest player for Arsenal? How does that happen?being smart with your positioning and tackling
By Meier Go To PostLucas Torreira is simultaneously the slowest AND the smallest player for Arsenal? How does that happen?being slow and small?
bad genes
he must make up for it with his brain or something
By Xpike Go To Postbeing smart with your positioning and tackling
By rvy Go To Postbeing slow and small?
bad genes
he must make up for it with his brain or something
pretty much.
Why should you use stats in a Football argument?
1) Predictive value
2) Remove bias and other barriers to clear thinking
A lot of statistics are better at predicing the future, whether in terms of a clubs performance or a player's potential, than eye tests or naive statistics such as goals. For example, expected goals have a much more accuracy than just using goals or watching a player a few times.
A small amount of luck or biased thinking can easily obscure truths in football. For example, when Liverpool started using zonal marking under Benitez, they were heavily criticised for their defending on corners, as pundits perceived zonal marking to contribute to more goals. In fact, Liverpool easily outperformed the average and were much better off with zonal marking, but pundits who were used to man marking were looking for reasons to attack the new system.
Predictive value requires large sample sizes, you'd want at least 30 games for a player before extrapolating their stats forwards, for example. Smaller sample sizes do not give zero information, but you would be much more cautious. 2games, however, would be massively affected by randomness and are impossible to judge from.
Removing bias is only relevant if people are mistaken about something. However, no one thinks that Guendozi has not played a lot better than Xhaka, and no one who is not crazy believes Man Utd haven't had a wank attack in their first 2 games. Adding statistics to that conversation provides zero value, you don't need statistics because it is clear from looking yourself.
1) Predictive value
2) Remove bias and other barriers to clear thinking
A lot of statistics are better at predicing the future, whether in terms of a clubs performance or a player's potential, than eye tests or naive statistics such as goals. For example, expected goals have a much more accuracy than just using goals or watching a player a few times.
A small amount of luck or biased thinking can easily obscure truths in football. For example, when Liverpool started using zonal marking under Benitez, they were heavily criticised for their defending on corners, as pundits perceived zonal marking to contribute to more goals. In fact, Liverpool easily outperformed the average and were much better off with zonal marking, but pundits who were used to man marking were looking for reasons to attack the new system.
Predictive value requires large sample sizes, you'd want at least 30 games for a player before extrapolating their stats forwards, for example. Smaller sample sizes do not give zero information, but you would be much more cautious. 2games, however, would be massively affected by randomness and are impossible to judge from.
Removing bias is only relevant if people are mistaken about something. However, no one thinks that Guendozi has not played a lot better than Xhaka, and no one who is not crazy believes Man Utd haven't had a wank attack in their first 2 games. Adding statistics to that conversation provides zero value, you don't need statistics because it is clear from looking yourself.
By Francis Go To PostThat feeling when you're watching HBK at home and Gefle, 2nd bottom of Superettan, make it 1-2 in the 91st minute.You live in Halmstad (or support them)?
feelsbadman.jpeg
Used to live and study there 😋
Speaking of which, about to board a flight to Kastrup. Are you there meeting me with a flag, Emil?
By sohois Go To PostWhy should you use stats in a Football argument?
1) Predictive value
2) Remove bias and other barriers to clear thinking
A lot of statistics are better at predicing the future, whether in terms of a clubs performance or a player's potential, than eye tests or naive statistics such as goals. For example, expected goals have a much more accuracy than just using goals or watching a player a few times.
A small amount of luck or biased thinking can easily obscure truths in football. For example, when Liverpool started using zonal marking under Benitez, they were heavily criticised for their defending on corners, as pundits perceived zonal marking to contribute to more goals. In fact, Liverpool easily outperformed the average and were much better off with zonal marking, but pundits who were used to man marking were looking for reasons to attack the new system.
Predictive value requires large sample sizes, you'd want at least 30 games for a player before extrapolating their stats forwards, for example. Smaller sample sizes do not give zero information, but you would be much more cautious. 2games, however, would be massively affected by randomness and are impossible to judge from.
Removing bias is only relevant if people are mistaken about something. However, no one thinks that Guendozi has not played a lot better than Xhaka, and no one who is not crazy believes Man Utd haven't had a wank attack in their first 2 games. Adding statistics to that conversation provides zero value, you don't need statistics because it is clear from looking yourself.
In the case of Xhaka and Guen adding stats is meaningful. A lot of people here have said in the first two games that Guen looks like the only player who is trying, something that can't be measured, but by adding stats you can see that not only does he look like he is trying hard, but that he is performing. Now I know that he has spent a longer time with Emery than Xhaka(and that was most likely why he started over Lucas) but the added stats show that one of them in the double pivot is reading and performing at a higher level level than the other. The fact that Xhaka has no interceptions is very worrying, especially against two teams that had more possession.
By Grizzled Cola Go To PostGF thinks shes pregnant, its been 4 months, taking a test after work today at around 5:30
What?
By Grizzled Cola Go To PostGF thinks shes pregnant, its been 4 months, taking a test after work today at around 5:30
What?
you've been fucking her without a condom when she isn't on birth control?
cola
no
This is what happens when you move to Scotland. Your dick starts bleeding and you get girls prego.
Scotland, not even once.
Scotland, not even once.
By Fergie Go To PostShort termism my ass. We need leaders at the back, and someone tenacious up front
But that's Mou in a nutshell…
Look at Barca who ended up buying Paulinho who was great for them, Juventus with Evra. Pirlo doesn't count because who's dumb enough to turn him down.
By Grizzled Cola Go To PostGF thinks shes pregnant, its been 4 months, taking a test after work today at around 5:30
What?
By Grizzled Cola Go To PostGF thinks shes pregnant, its been 4 months, taking a test after work today at around 5:30
What?
The
She works in a bakery and has been seeing kids and has diarrhoea but "the different kind" and says she feels it, how can you respond to that? I think shes mental.
By Flutter Go To PostShort termism my ass. We need leaders at the back, and someone tenacious up front
Look at Barca who ended up buying Paulinho who was great for them, Juventus with Evra. Pirlo doesn't count because who's dumb enough to turn him down.
board only cares about how many shirts a player will sell and future sell-on value. all about the benjamins (or whoever's on your brexit dollars)