Ethics in Videogame journalism
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Do they exist? Discuss.
You are a video game journalist, are you not?
Do you have any ethics, or do you just sell the games for quick cash?
Do you have any ethics, or do you just sell the games for quick cash?
By Shanks D ZoroYou are a video game journalist, are you not?
Do you have any ethics, or do you just sell the games for quick cash?
:lol
I'm not able to answer your question. But you should be more nicer to me. I cant believe you are against me.
By MorisBlanter begging to be renamed 'Unethical Snitch'Moris going full Evilore. One does not simply go full Evilore.
I was going to respond, but forgot what i was going to say cause this girl in the banner ad is thicker than grandma's gravy.
By harSonI was going to respond, but forgot what i was going to say cause this girl in the banner ad is thicker than grandma's gravy.some of these ads have me fukked up lol
WANT ASIAN WOMEN? loud as fuck taking up the bottom half of my htc one at the gym. people on the next bike over lookin at me with scust
By DY_nastyAnd then you ordered some, innit?By harSonI was going to respond, but forgot what i was going to say cause this girl in the banner ad is thicker than grandma's gravy.some of these ads have me fukked up lol
WANT ASIAN WOMEN? loud as fuck taking up the bottom half of my htc one at the gym. people on the next bike over lookin at me with scust
By BlanterBy DY_nastyAnd then you ordered some, innit?By harSonI was going to respond, but forgot what i was going to say cause this girl in the banner ad is thicker than grandma's gravy.some of these ads have me fukked up lol
WANT ASIAN WOMEN? loud as fuck taking up the bottom half of my htc one at the gym. people on the next bike over lookin at me with scust
Only thing I pay for is cashmere and bottle service
I think games journalism product reviewing is in a bad place right now.
A lot of them don't precisely agree with my opinions on video games for starters.
A lot of them don't precisely agree with my opinions on video games for starters.
Gaming press went from playground kids arguing over their favorite toy to middle schoolers trying to fit into social cliques. It's all rather embarrassing.
I am sure there are some good people working hard trying and being perfectly ethical about it but for the most part no.
People are asking too much from videogame journalists. First of all, the state of the industry is no different than that of any other media centric journalism (film, television, music, etc). Second of all, what are you expecting when a journalism degree (or any degree) is not required - and the salaries are laughably bad?
By harSonPeople are asking too much from videogame journalists. First of all, the state of the industry is no different than that of any other media centric journalism (film, television, music, etc). Second of all, what are you expecting when a journalism degree (or any degree) is not required - and the salaries are laughably bad?
As indicated, a vast majority are hobbyist product reviewers that get paid.
'Journalism' doesn't come in to it in the slightest much of the time.
As for ethics?
It's a red herring, and I assume Bla knows it too.
By JayTenCan we talk about ethnics is video games instead?
I think that's certainly a more existentially profound topic.
By BlanterI'm not able to answer your question. But you should be more nicer to me. I cant believe you are against me.
Just pretend this is Ricky :p
But in a serious post, I find it hard for the big companies to be taken seriously. If you are a gaming website then you are most likely going to be getting advertising from gaming companies. It is hard to take reviews seriously when you see a game advertised all over the site.
The launch parties and goody bags need to go too.
I personally don't read reviews anymore. I know what games I want Day 1 and everything rlse I wait for the Footy crews impressions. I was going to get FIFA15, but when I saw all the comments I decided to wait for PES and then saw all the great comments.
Reviews are meant to be trusted sources of information and I get most of it from you guys.
In the past 3 to 4 years, the only gaming website I routinely checked was Massively. They specialized in MMOs and online games, and had some good columns and articles, along with a decent podcast. They didn't do reviews. They just covered everything and sounded like they loved gaming while still being critical. It's not like there's some super secret formula to a hobby rag. What they did was pretty much what people wanted.Write with a love for gaming but be willing to criticize. Know your shit and cover the news.
By JayTenCan we talk about ethnics is video games instead?No, m9, because, see, my gunslinging-wisecracking-white-guy-pseudo-everyman goty (that I haven't played yet, but I don't need to play it, because I've been on media blackout since the cg teaser trailer, so I know it's perfect) just received 8/10 from this unethical, unobjective reviewer who just wants clicks and who doesn't like the genre anyways and who has a stated aversion to cinematic experiences, which is a much bigger issue in the games industry than some SJW bullshit that wouldn't perform well in NPDs anyways.
The dude at SuperBunnyhop had a nice video about the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNZFWR0Q8M
His teacher said some stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNZFWR0Q8M
His teacher said some stuff.
Having been in the gaming industry for 12 years until leaving 5 years ago, I can tell you that it's not just the journalistic side that's corrupt, but also the PR side. I've gotten into fights with PR reps from Eidos (they were deeply upset with me for panning their E3 booth back at E3 2004...or whenever 25 to Life was revealed). And a PR rep who was a 3rd party (outsourced PR) for Rockstar Games who took great exception to my criticisms and review of Borderlands.
Eidos threatened to blacklist me, and I didn't cave on my stance. I did not write a retraction. I told them to go ahead and do it, it made no difference to me so long as they kept releasing terrible products. And the Borderlands situation I resolved when I went straight to Rockstar's actual PR dept and forwarded them the emails I received from their outsource. Needless to say, they canned that partner quickly.
Eidos threatened to blacklist me, and I didn't cave on my stance. I did not write a retraction. I told them to go ahead and do it, it made no difference to me so long as they kept releasing terrible products. And the Borderlands situation I resolved when I went straight to Rockstar's actual PR dept and forwarded them the emails I received from their outsource. Needless to say, they canned that partner quickly.
By reiloWasn't Eidos responsible for Gestmann getting fired?Yup, they were heavily promoting Kane and Lynch on Gamespot when his review panned it.
By reiloWasn't Eidos responsible for Gestmann getting fired?So, what you're saying is ethics in games journalism isn't a thing.
By reiloWasn't Eidos responsible for Gestmann getting fired?
And later Sony too with Ratchet and Clank...but it was their marketing department, which isn't affiliated with SCEA. Also, Sony's marketing staff didn't ask GameSpot to change their R&C; score. CNET/GameSpot pressured that change to happen. Sony was only going to pull the ads because it served as a conflict, which they had every right to do so. It was GameSpot that ultimately forced a change of the review score and caused another writer to resign.
The onus was on GameSpot in many instances. They weren't entirely innocent in the whole ordeal.
I try to be as unethical as possible. It just makes everything so much easier—and monetarily rewarding!
By AlphaSnacksHaving been in the gaming industry for 12 years until leaving 5 years ago, I can tell you that it's not just the journalistic side that's corrupt, but also the PR side. I've gotten into fights with PR reps from Eidos (they were deeply upset with me for panning their E3 booth back at E3 2004...or whenever 25 to Life was revealed). And a PR rep who was a 3rd party (outsourced PR) for Rockstar Games who took great exception to my criticisms and review of Borderlands.
Eidos threatened to blacklist me, and I didn't cave on my stance. I did not write a retraction. I told them to go ahead and do it, it made no difference to me so long as they kept releasing terrible products. And the Borderlands situation I resolved when I went straight to Rockstar's actual PR dept and forwarded them the emails I received from their outsource. Needless to say, they canned that partner quickly.
How does one get into the gaming industry?
Why did you leave?
By dbThere's no ethics but notice how the blow up came when some ex outed his chick getting side dick.Exactly. This shit was never about "ethics" anyway. Just an excuse to harass/threaten women. I swear I hate "gamers".