By HasphatsAnts Go To PostI think Manchin and Flake vote yes to give Murkowski and Collins cover to vote no. They confirm with 50
This seems pretty possible. Though I don’t think they need manchin as Collins doesnt seem like she gives a fuck
Yeah it does seem like the horse trading is happening among Flake/Murkowski/Collins at this point. They'll produce single "no" vote and confirm.
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostYou must be talking about Obama and Hillary dynamic duo.your obsession with those 2 is borderline Trump-like
American Bar Association just came out to say it needs to be delayed and an FBI probe needs to happen. Not that the GOP will give two shits.
Democrats wish they could obtain such solidarity in fukkery
They aren't built for this. Whenever they get power again, we'll see how soft they are . Doing things "the right way" and all that. Republicans might lose the House but they've already accomplished what they needed to with the courts being fucked for decades.
They aren't built for this. Whenever they get power again, we'll see how soft they are . Doing things "the right way" and all that. Republicans might lose the House but they've already accomplished what they needed to with the courts being fucked for decades.
Live updates - https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/kavanaugh-senate-committee-vote/index.html
Sen. Patrick Leahy, a Democrat from Vermont, said the Senate and its Judiciary Committee are no longer the "independent branch of government" they're supposed to be.No words...
Instead, it's "an arm — and a very weak arm — of the Trump White House," he said.
Here's how he opened his statement to the committee today:
"It feels like 'Alice in Wonderland' around here. It's unbelievable where we are today. It's almost surreal. This Judiciary Committee is no longer an independent branch of government. And we're supposed to be. The Senate is supposed to be an independent, equal branch of government. We're no longer that. We are an arm — and a very weak arm — of the Trump White House. Every semblance of independence has just disappeared. It's gone. And I think that is something historians will look at, and they'll call it a turning point in the United
I say this as someone who lives in a dogshit country with a dogshit culture - your country is dogshit and it stems from your absolutely dogshit culture.
Curious if this nomination will last as a sticking point for future elections. His partisan attacks on dems yesterday make it clear he should be no where near the bench. Wonder if impeachment will become a talking point for future elections. I have a feeling dems won't drop this. I have a feeling Avenatti will continue to scream from the mountain tops and if Dems take back congress, they may have no choice but to move or give the 2020 nom to liberal trump.
By Laboured Go To PostI say this as someone who lives in a dogshit country with a dogshit culture - your country is dogshit and it stems from your absolutely dogshit culture.
You're not wrong.
By Laboured Go To PostI say this as someone who lives in a dogshit country with a dogshit culture - your country is dogshit and it stems from your absolutely dogshit culture.
yeah...
By Fenderputty Go To PostCurious if this nomination will last as a sticking point for future elections. His partisan attacks on dems yesterday make it clear he should be no where near the bench. Wonder if impeachment will become a talking point for future elections. I have a feeling dems won't drop this. I have a feeling Avenatti will continue to scream from the mountain tops and if Dems take back congress, they may have no choice but to move or give the 2020 nom to liberal trump.
Doubt it . I don't see Dems having the spine to hold grudges forever like Republicans.
Not related to what's happening now, but remember (or not, might be the point) the whole Yemen fiasco that happened 1000 years ago?
Repubs kept Benghazi alive for forever. That Yemen screw up fell right off the map.
Yale Law dean calls for investigation into Kavanaugh allegationslol
The dean of Yale Law School is calling for an investigation into the allegations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh before his confirmation.
Yale Law School Dean Heather Gerken released this statement:
“I join the American Bar Association in calling for an additional investigation into allegations made against Judge Kavanaugh. Proceeding with the confirmation process without further investigation is not in the best interest of the Court or our profession.”
Kavanaugh attended Yale for both undergraduate and law school.
By Smokey Go To PostDoubt it . I don't see Dems having the spine to hold grudges forever like Republicans.
Not related to what's happening now, but remember (or not, might be the point) the whole Yemen fiasco that happened 1000 years ago?
Repubs kept Benghazi alive for forever. That Yemen screw up fell right off the map.
Depends on the base IMO. Like I said ... Avenatti will be gunning for Kav and will be calling Dems weak if they don't act. 2020 approaches. I think Dems will rise this wave of enthusiasm. Not sure how far they'll take it? Stack the courts maybe not? Gerrymander the shit back in Dems favor and try to impeaceh Kav ... maybe.
Very little you can do when you don’t have control over WH, House, Senate, and the Courts.
If they get the house in November they have subpoena power, then you can actually do some digging
If they get the house in November they have subpoena power, then you can actually do some digging
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostVery little you can do when you don’t have control over WH, House, Senate, and the Courts.
If they get the house in November they have subpoena power, then you can actually do some digging
20% chance GOP retains house.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/
I think Dems have an equal shot at taking both back.
Holy fuck, how much is Booker going to give praise to these clowns?
"Look man, I don't mean any disrespect. I love all of you all, a lot. It was a dream to be able to work with you all. I literally can't believe you all are being so mean. I don't want to have to stop being friends with you all. Please be nice. I want to run for president and don't want things to stop being status quo. Grassley please."
"Look man, I don't mean any disrespect. I love all of you all, a lot. It was a dream to be able to work with you all. I literally can't believe you all are being so mean. I don't want to have to stop being friends with you all. Please be nice. I want to run for president and don't want things to stop being status quo. Grassley please."
Here's the latest whip count on the senators who could decide how this goes
From CNN's Ryan Struyk
R - Sen. Susan Collins ⚠️
R - Sen. Lisa Murkowski ⚠️
D - Sen. Joe Manchin ⚠️
D - Sen. Heidi Heitkamp ⚠️
R - Sen. Jeff Flake ✅
R - Sen. Bob Corker ✅
D - Sen. Doug Jones ❌
D - Sen. Bill Nelson ❌
D - Sen. Joe Donnelly ❌
D - Sen. Jon Tester ❌
(⚠️= Undeclared. We don't know where they stand.)
From CNN's Ryan Struyk
R - Sen. Susan Collins ⚠️
R - Sen. Lisa Murkowski ⚠️
D - Sen. Joe Manchin ⚠️
D - Sen. Heidi Heitkamp ⚠️
R - Sen. Jeff Flake ✅
R - Sen. Bob Corker ✅
D - Sen. Doug Jones ❌
D - Sen. Bill Nelson ❌
D - Sen. Joe Donnelly ❌
D - Sen. Jon Tester ❌
(⚠️= Undeclared. We don't know where they stand.)
I see they are doing that thing where they pretend it's a close vote but in actuality they all agreed long before this farce.
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostVery little you can do when you don’t have control over WH, House, Senate, and the Courts.i mean.... they could not fuck stuff like this up for starters. there was no reason to sit on ford's allegation this long other than to make a show. now they got it and want to talk about drinking instead of putting everything on how his first response was to ignore the impact of the accusation and cry about the clintons to demonstrate he's not fit for the seat.
If they get the house in November they have subpoena power, then you can actually do some digging
never seen the right be able to claim a moral high ground on protecting a sexual victim but they found a way
but hey - even if they did win the house, i'm not sure why you'd even believe that they'd use that ability to do anything other than bicker among themselves louder
By Lunatic Go To PostI see they are doing that thing where they pretend it's a close vote but in actuality they all agreed long before this farce.pls clap
By EldritchTrapStar Go To PostHoly fuck, how much is Booker going to give praise to these clowns?
"Look man, I don't mean any disrespect. I love all of you all, a lot. It was a dream to be able to work with you all. I literally can't believe you all are being so mean. I don't want to have to stop being friends with you all. Please be nice. I want to run for president and don't want things to stop being status quo. Grassley please."
By DY_nasty Go To Posti mean…. they could not fuck stuff like this up for starters. there was no reason to sit on ford's allegation this long other than to make a show.
Ford didn't want to go public initially until after the leak. Which wasn't even a leak of the letter itself but details surrounding the letter from someone who knew someone who knew details.
By Flutter Go To PostIt's pretty insane.Dems ain't shit m8. Republicans almost kept a pedo in office 😂
You guys just had the Al Franken scandal a while back that went another way.
By DY_nasty Go To Posti mean…. they could not fuck stuff like this up for starters. there was no reason to sit on ford's allegation this long other than to make a show. now they got it and want to talk about drinking instead of putting everything on how his first response was to ignore the impact of the accusation and cry about the clintons to demonstrate he's not fit for the seat.
You are taking Megan McArdle's position and it's unbecoming.
By Flutter Go To PostLooks like Flake has flipped and the nomination will be delayed another week.
Flake is flaking on this morning's flake and will now ask for an FBI investigation. Bless his flakey soul.
There's some conversations happening behind closed doors and not in congress that's making a lot of people reconsider just what the fuck they're doing. And then there's the assholes who will always remain assholes.
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostWhat's stopping Mitch to call for a floor vote tomorrow?
Nothing ... apparently Flake signed the approval for a vote but will abstain until the FBI investigates. Waiting to see if McConnell will call his bluff
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostYou are taking Megan McArdle's position and it's unbecoming.No, it's just kinda bs to act like this timeline makes any kind of sense. You have this information, present it.
Asking for an FBI investigation over and over when you didn't properly forward information is a farce man. They had Ford's situation long enough to independently vet - but somehow felt the need to keep all of that compartmentalized.... for what? We know kavanaugh is a piece of shit but either go hard on the attempt to buy time like true scumbags or don't. Got Ford up here just to get shit on.
By Fenderputty Go To PostNow manchin supports FBI investogation. Curious what “scope limitations” are
If they find out he killed someone, that's fine and they can still vote yes.
Scope might have to do with them not wanting the FBI to pry into his financials too deep which are also SHADY AS FUCK.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostScope might have to do with them not wanting the FBI to pry into his financials too deep which are also SHADY AS FUCK.Like his $200k baseball debt which suddenly went away overnight.
By rodeoclown Go To PostLike his $200k baseball debt which suddenly went away overnight.the power of prayer
By rodeoclown Go To PostLike his $200k baseball debt which suddenly went away overnight."Baseball tickets."
lol hmmm
He also has that book Wasted: The Story of a Gen X Drunk or whatever.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/27/mark-judges-book-validates-christine-fords-timeline-alleged-kavanaugh-assault/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9e0dfccd37fa
Shoulda been subpoena'd already. Nothing suspicious here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/27/mark-judges-book-validates-christine-fords-timeline-alleged-kavanaugh-assault/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9e0dfccd37fa
Elsewhere in the book, Judge describes one of his acquaintances at the time, someone named “Bart O’Kavanaugh,” who vomited in a car after a party.
Shoulda been subpoena'd already. Nothing suspicious here.
While walking into Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's office, Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, a key vote, said "yes," when asked if she supports Sen. Jeff Flake's proposal for a delay.Add Manchin to this... interesting....
"Yes I do. It has to be limited in time and scope," she said.
CNN asked: And do you think it should be limited to Ford’s accusations or should it include an investigation into other allegations?
Murkowski responded: "I support the FBI having an opportunity to bring some closure to this."
Why that's important: Without Murkowski, Republicans don't have enough votes to move forward on a floor without Flake. This vote would therefore seem delayed until the FBI can do the investigation Flake has asked for.
By Fenderputty Go To PostMan you need to keep up lolYes it's old, which is why I said add Manchin to that. Of course, by that time they already did the confirmation with the 1 week "background check". My question is what the heck prompted Flake to flip.
In response to a question about Sen. Jeff Flake's request for a one-week investigation, Sen. Lindsey Graham insisted that Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court nomination would go forward, while praising Flake as "a really good guy."LOL to the bolded. "I mean... he's a great guy. I wouldn't have tried to be fair and impartial. I would've been biased as fuck"
"I think what Jeff is trying to do is end this the best he possibly can, to accommodate some people on the other side, and to bring the committee together if possible," Graham said to reporters. "This is democracy."
When pushed again on why Flake seemed to change his mind, Graham repeated, "This is called democracy … Jeff's a really good guy. I wouldn't have done it. Jeff is trying to be fair."
However, Graham insisted that both he and Flake felt confident in Kavanaugh's nomination, and that the process would push forward.
"A week is enough time for (Flake), maybe less … We're not playing this game of opening this up and it goes on forever."
Basically Flake got too much grief from Dems/protesters and had to be coaxed into this.