By Random Ass Username Go To PostAll this just coming up now. Fucking media.I knew about the Drake thing last year before he was elected. I think there is just so much garbage they can keep recycling it and it seems new.
By DY_nasty Go To Posti'm not even saying "both sides" but if you're gonna say anyone who supported x is evil then you're opening yourself up for a ton of shitIf you continue to support someone who personally spews racism, narcissism, xenophobia and hate yes you are evil.
its just stupid
I'm sorry you want to spare racists their feelings.
By FlutterPuffs Go To PostYou can see who actually does critical thinking in this thread, and those that spew sound bites of what's popular on the internet.I did my critical thinking.
If you are still gonna sit here and defend what the GOP has become that's on you.
By TheHunter Go To PostIf you continue to support someone who personally spews racism, narcissism, xenophobia and hate yes you are evil.Okay, another reason why this is just shallow. Since we've already gone over how democrats have defended candidates and supported their campaigns through sexual assault/misconduct allegations and how that's or politicians act in general.
I'm sorry you want to spare racists their feelings.
Does everyone just up and leave and quit doing their jobs because they don't like the boss?
Like if Mattis quit tomorrow, how fucked would we be?
By Random Ass Username Go To PostAll this just coming up now. Fucking media.He'd probably get more support if people knew he was banging porn stars. Really helps project the Alpha Male image he tries to cultivate.
By DY_nasty Go To PostOkay, another reason why this is just shallow. Since we've already gone over how democrats have defended candidates and supported their campaigns through sexual assault/misconduct allegations and how that's or politicians act in general.I'm not talking about the workers, I'm talking about his supports.
Does everyone just up and leave and quit doing their jobs because they don't like the boss?
Like if Mattis quit tomorrow, how fucked would we be?
You know, the "forgotten men and women of America aka the racists shitbags".
Quit being obtuse, you knew what I meant.
By TheHunter Go To PostI'm not talking about the workers, I'm talking about his supports.No, I don't know what you mean. And I'm not even being a dick about this. If you want to call those people out, call them out. Getting lazy and broadstroking on stuff like this is how mobs work. Big mobs. This us against them thing on such a big scale is wholly unproductive. "Its the GOP pedophiles" is ridiculous. "They're all racists" is also bewildering to anyone who's seen the effects of actualized policy from the opposing party just a few years prior. If you want to label every republican voter as the fat lady rocking the *Grab MY pussy* T-Shirt on a daily show skit or these personal interest stories across middle america showing dumbfounded factory workers at face value, then like.... damn. And its hypocritical when you know that the entire game is to put out the lowest common denominators on each side to degrade the position of the other. The right does it by putting a camera in the face of a crackhead, the current wave of the left is the above. And it changes all the time. Hell, if you'd read that article I posted you would have noticed the exact same language used to defend Roy Moore.
You know, the "forgotten men and women of America aka the racists shitbags".
Quit being obtuse, you knew what I meant.
No one is saying that these racists don't exist or that the president isn't a tool. They absolutely do, but portraying that as its just them is disingenuous, dismissive, and flat out lazy if I'm being blunt. Especially when you double down and try to reduce the argument to "you're just both sides-ing". That's not any of what I'm communicating. That's the overall show. If you're not aware of that, you're not a real participant. You're a fanboy.
If you're supporting the framework of government as it exists, that doesn't mean you do it with a smile or readily embrace all the negatives that come with it on any given day. This applies to every president because every president does shit that people won't like. He's still the president. And while that's completely understandable that's its rage inducing for millions, it should also be a rational to seen that people want to see the best of this jacked up situation.
That's not evil.
tl;dr. its unproductive to subscribe to us vs them, always
By DY_nasty Go To PostNo, I don't know what you mean. And I'm not even being a dick about this. If you want to call those people out, call them out. Getting lazy and broadstroking on stuff like this is how mobs work. Big mobs. This us against them thing on such a big scale is wholly unproductive. "Its the GOP pedophiles" is ridiculous. "They're all racists" is also bewildering to anyone who's seen the effects of actualized policy from the opposing party just a few years prior. If you want to label every republican voter as the fat lady rocking the *Grab MY pussy* T-Shirt on a daily show skit or these personal interest stories across middle america showing dumbfounded factory workers at face value, then like…. damn. And its hypocritical when you know that the entire game is to put out the lowest common denominators on each side to degrade the position of the other. The right does it by putting a camera in the face of a crackhead, the current wave of the left is the above. And it changes all the time. Hell, if you'd read that article I posted you would have noticed the exact same language used to defend Roy Moore.
No one is saying that these racists don't exist or that the president isn't a tool. They absolutely do, but portraying that as its just them is disingenuous, dismissive, and flat out lazy if I'm being blunt. Especially when you double down and try to reduce the argument to "you're just both sides-ing". That's not any of what I'm communicating. That's the overall show. If you're not aware of that, you're not a real participant. You're a fanboy.
If you're supporting the framework of government as it exists, that doesn't mean you do it with a smile or readily embrace all the negatives that come with it on any given day. This applies to every president because every president does shit that people won't like. He's still the president. And while that's completely understandable that's its rage inducing for millions, it should also be a rational to seen that people want to see the best of this jacked up situation.
That's not evil.
tl;dr. its unproductive to subscribe to us vs them, always
I don't know if you noticed, the same 30% of people keep supporting things like banning muslims, anything the president says and equally insane shit.
There aren't good republicans anymore. The one's that were left the party or foolishly think they can save it. No one I know of makes this an excuse to say the dems are in the clear, but you're insane if you think it isn't "US vs. Them" when one side keeps making it that issue. We're at war for the future of the US; if you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend that the other side has good people among them you do that.
I'm going to fight for whats right.
By DY_nasty Go To PostNo, I don't know what you mean. And I'm not even being a dick about this. If you want to call those people out, call them out. Getting lazy and broadstroking on stuff like this is how mobs work. Big mobs. This us against them thing on such a big scale is wholly unproductive. "Its the GOP pedophiles" is ridiculous. "They're all racists" is also bewildering to anyone who's seen the effects of actualized policy from the opposing party just a few years prior. If you want to label every republican voter as the fat lady rocking the *Grab MY pussy* T-Shirt on a daily show skit or these personal interest stories across middle america showing dumbfounded factory workers at face value, then like…. damn. And its hypocritical when you know that the entire game is to put out the lowest common denominators on each side to degrade the position of the other. The right does it by putting a camera in the face of a crackhead, the current wave of the left is the above. And it changes all the time. Hell, if you'd read that article I posted you would have noticed the exact same language used to defend Roy Moore.The time for that is passed.
No one is saying that these racists don't exist or that the president isn't a tool. They absolutely do, but portraying that as its just them is disingenuous, dismissive, and flat out lazy if I'm being blunt. Especially when you double down and try to reduce the argument to "you're just both sides-ing". That's not any of what I'm communicating. That's the overall show. If you're not aware of that, you're not a real participant. You're a fanboy.
If you're supporting the framework of government as it exists, that doesn't mean you do it with a smile or readily embrace all the negatives that come with it on any given day. This applies to every president because every president does shit that people won't like. He's still the president. And while that's completely understandable that's its rage inducing for millions, it should also be a rational to seen that people want to see the best of this jacked up situation.
That's not evil.
tl;dr. its unproductive to subscribe to us vs them, always
He is the worst possible scenario time and again.
I guess they've been informed their "lets say we don't recall" soft lie wasn't enough...... More Clown Shoes
Now that I know she's running to take Ben Cardin's seat, Chelsea Manning will definitely have my....
Nah, I still wouldn't vote for that Julian Assange enabler.
Ben Cardin is still the lesser evil.
Yo, fuck Ecuador.
Nah, I still wouldn't vote for that Julian Assange enabler.
Ben Cardin is still the lesser evil.
Yo, fuck Ecuador.
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostNow that I know she's running to take Ben Cardin's seat, Chelsea Manning will definitely have my….
Nah, I still wouldn't vote for that Julian Assange enabler.
Ben Cardin is still the lesser evil.
Yo, fuck Ecuador.
You mean Ben "Fuck you Putin" Cardin
https://www.foreign.senate.gov/press/ranking/release/cardin-releases-report-detailing-two-decades-of-putins-attacks-on-democracy
Timing is a little too suspect for me
Who's Chelsea Manning's base in Maryland? The Democratic base in that state is DC suburbs and Baltimore. Like, if this where Washington State, maybe, but these are the wrong type of Dems that would find her appealing.
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postshe won't come close to being electednaw like .... at all
She's got a lot of nerve, tbh.
If she ever has a townhall, I'm going to grill her about Assange, Trump, and Russia.
I'm going to pin it all on her.
"Shouldn't you be running as a Republican?"
If she ever has a townhall, I'm going to grill her about Assange, Trump, and Russia.
I'm going to pin it all on her.
"Shouldn't you be running as a Republican?"
By ClownsAreATen Go To PostWho's Chelsea Manning's base in Maryland? The Democratic base in that state is DC suburbs and Baltimore. Like, if this where Washington State, maybe, but these are the wrong type of Dems that would find her appealing.Yeah, I don't know if Washington state would like her all that much either. She's get some love in Western Washington to a degree..
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostShe's got a lot of nerve, tbh.What?
If she ever has a townhall, I'm going to grill her about Assange, Trump, and Russia.
I'm going to pin it all on her.
"Shouldn't you be running as a Republican?"
By DY_nasty Go To Postliterally a traitorThis...
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostShe's got a lot of nerve, tbh.Thi... wait what?
If she ever has a townhall, I'm going to grill her about Assange, Trump, and Russia.
I'm going to pin it all on her.
"Shouldn't you be running as a Republican?"
Nothing stops this Wave
Jokes aside this is the type of wins you would hope for to reset after these last two years of madness.
Huh, apparently being a convicted felon doesn’t stop you from running for office. It only stops you from voting. 🤤
By Zeus Ex Machina Go To PostI heard Brickhouse... the PotUS is a huge Rick James fan...
That'll work…… Sure….. Cause everybody is stupid
By Zeus Ex Machina Go To PostThat douchebag grin is unbearable..
Redlining is officially back brehs……
By Zeus Ex Machina Go To Post
That'll work…… Sure….. Cause everybody is stupid
Well, I mean that just changes everything.
"Evil" is a special word reserved for those who do some serious shit. Voters are not evil. Voters tend to be show levels of ignorance (sometimes willing), selfishness and a lack of empathy. Most people don't vote with the intention of being a prick. This is why "deplorable" works well.
Trump pays a massive premium for sex with porn stars lmfao
Trump pays a massive premium for sex with porn stars lmfao
Dude claiming people are both sidesing meanwhile Enron ragequit because his right wing bullshit kept getting called out
Ive been listening to NPR a lot these past few days, hearing stories about the protections ending for a ton of immigrants. So many of the people they interviewed straight up said they have no options if they get sent back to Haiti/Mexico/etc.
A lot of these people are going to end up as targets in their "home" countries and that fucking sucks.
By RobNBanks Go To PostDude claiming people are both sidesing meanwhile Enron ragequit because his right wing bullshit kept getting called out
My post he rage quit over was rather innocuous too IIRC
Man, fuck the US immigration system. Rotten to the bloody core.
Just grant him citizenship you heartless bastards.
Just grant him citizenship you heartless bastards.
By RobNBanks Go To PostDude claiming people are both sidesing meanwhile Enron ragequit because his right wing bullshit kept getting called outMy anger is at the fact it's taboo to use the word racist.
That the GOP has crossed a threshold there is no going back on. People were in here acting like Dems were out there supporting the worst of the worst people.
And then they cut them loose and they're just being "politically salient". Give me a break.
By Fenderputty Go To Post"Evil" is a special word reserved for those who do some serious shit. Voters are not evil. Voters tend to be show levels of ignorance (sometimes willing), selfishness and a lack of empathy. Most people don't vote with the intention of being a prick. This is why "deplorable" works well.Voters most certainly can be evil.
Trump pays a massive premium for sex with porn stars lmfao
The one's that supported Roy Moore come to mind.
By s y Go To Post
Ive been listening to NPR a lot these past few days, hearing stories about the protections ending for a ton of immigrants. So many of the people they interviewed straight up said they have no options if they get sent back to Haiti/Mexico/etc.
A lot of these people are going to end up as targets in their "home" countries and that fucking sucks.
End up as targets?
By Smokey Go To PostEnd up as targets?Goons/gangs think american accents are easy money.
By TheHunter Go To PostVoters most certainly can be evil.
The one's that supported Roy Moore come to mind.
I meant "most" voters aren't evil (I clarified the quantity a bunch later but didn't here for some reason). Indirectly voting racism because you like your taxes going down is selfish and lacks empathy, but it's not evil. Even the Roy Moore thing you have to play careful. Evangelicals are given the choice of voting in support of abortion or in support of a pedophile who will help them stop abortion. From a liberal perspective this is easy. Not so much from the evangelical perspective. There's also the contingent of people who are brainwashed by this crap. The people who stick to their guns and come up with supply side Jesus doctrine or actively fool themselves that one can be born again when caught on tape bragging about grabbing pussies. Like that pastror who was cheered for admitting assaulting an underage girl.
Again ... deplorable works for me lol
By Fenderputty Go To PostI meant "most" voters aren't evil (I clarified the quantity a bunch later but didn't here for some reason). Indirectly voting racism because you like your taxes going down is selfish and lacks empathy, but it's not evil. Even the Roy Moore thing you have to play careful. Evangelicals are given the choice of voting in support of abortion or in support of a pedophile who will help them stop abortion. From a liberal perspective this is easy. Not so much from the evangelical perspective. There's also the contingent of people who are brainwashed by this crap. The people who stick to their guns and come up with supply side Jesus doctrine or actively fool themselves that one can be born again when caught on tape bragging about grabbing pussies. Like that pastror who was cheered for admitting assaulting an underage girl.
Again … deplorable works for me lol
Irrelevant, you always have a choice in the matter; if you choose the path of least resistence and it leads down a dark path don't blame me when I call you out on it. Supporting a pedophile to "save children" is like fucking for virginity. It makes zero sense and stands up to 0 scrutiny.
Until I'm proven wrong, Trump's current supporters are all evil, either by greed, racism or pure sociopathy.
By TheHunter Go To PostIrrelevant, you always have a choice in the matter; if you choose the path of least resistence and it leads down a dark path don't blame me when I call you out on it.
Until I'm proven wrong, Trump's current supporters are all evil, either by greed, racism or pure sociopathy.
I mean ... I find these arguments to be largely fruitless because we're playing semantics and defining terms. We (this board not you and I) did this this other day when someone laughingly implied Obama was a neoliberal. What you think is evil I may not agree and vice versa. Ignorance helps play into this as well. Especially structural issues where the "evil" isn't so obvious.
In the end, if most of you're point is that people shy away from calling racism what it is, to that I agree. If you voted for Trump and continue to support him, you at the very least tacitly support racism and you really can't argue otherwise.
I'm not Black, but it would seem to me that if I were, I would not be shocked that people vote in tacit support of racism.
By Fenderputty Go To PostI mean … I find these arguments to be largely fruitless because we're playing semantics and defining terms. What you think is evil I may not agree and vice versa. Ignorance helps play into this as well. Especially structural issues where the "evil" isn't so obvious.Which is why I'm so angry.
In the end, if most of you're point is that people shy away from calling racism what it is, to that I agree. If you voted for Trump and continue to support him you at the very least tacitly support racism and you really can't argue otherwise.
Dems have to walk on eggshells while constantly under attack by progressives for real issues and "progressives" for imaginary slights.
Meanwhile the GOP has an openly racist and possibly white supremacist (or someone who thinks they're very fine) who makes every bad choice imaginable and I've got people saying I shouldn't' call him and his supporters what they are.
I might hurt their feelings.
I think a lot of the "egg shells" talk is because so much of the Racism is of a structural kind. It's something people don't understand and something they naturally don't want to agree with because if they did they would have to admit their own privilege. Hillary had to shy away from the "deplorable" comment, but she was basically making the claim you're angry we have to shy away from.
By TheHunter Go To PostUntil I'm proven wrong.this fucking guy lmao
doesn't remember kj or weiner getting support but republicans pushing moore is a new low for america
openly racist but doesn't remember "tough on crime!"
literally the image of the dumbing down of politics. I'm still laughing at your "We're at war for the future of the US" shit as if elections got cancelled or something. just consistent outrageous hyperbole without even considering context for a moment. all you got is the most recent, lowest common denominator rhetoric and a fanboy perspective better suited for defending halo wars than contributing in any way to real discussion
fender, if you're gonna call gondo an idiot over renegade democrats of all things then why the fuck waste time playing nice with this dude? lol
We gonna act like it was just Reagan and the GOP fronting the "welfare queen" shit myth too? And still do to some extent?
By DY_nasty Go To Postthis fucking guy lmaoYou still see the democrats as supporting racism and bigotry? Tough on Crime was 20 years ago; a different age. The Democrats are a more liberal and progressive group now.
doesn't remember kj or weiner getting support but republicans pushing moore is a new low for america
openly racist but doesn't remember "tough on crime!"
literally the image of the dumbing down of politics. I'm still laughing at your "We're at war for the future of the US" shit as if elections got cancelled or something. just consistent outrageous hyperbole without even considering context for a moment. all you got is the most recent, lowest common denominator rhetoric and a fanboy perspective better suited for defending halo wars than contributing in any way to real discussion
fender, if you're gonna call gondo an idiot over renegade democrats of all things then why the fuck waste time playing nice with this dude? lol
After Hillary had BLM mothers on the DNC stage and called out half of America for what it is?
Who really is the lost one here I wonder.
By TheHunter Go To PostYou still see the democrats as supporting racism and bigotry? Tough on Crime was 20 years ago; a different age. The Democrats are a more liberal and progressive group now.Rahm Emmanuel.
By TheHunter Go To PostYou still see the democrats as supporting racism and bigotry?Hillary is your champion of anti-racism?
After Hillary had BLM mothers on the DNC stage and called out half of America for what it is?
Who really is the lost one here I wonder.
Fender. I don't even have to try.