By livefromkyoto Go To Post
Active shooter in Florida. I’ve played Contra games with less gunfire. I wonder how much of that was the cops.
O beautiful, for spacious skies...
Incredible
Imagine if in 100 years kids are reading about former presidents and it says the president got taken down by a porn star lmfao
truly 4d chess brehs
Imagine if in 100 years kids are reading about former presidents and it says the president got taken down by a porn star lmfao
truly 4d chess brehs
gotta report on michael avenatti's financial situation tho.
mainstream media doing a disservice to its audience.
Sorry but isn't it pretty important detail that a more financially stable/sound lawyer isn't bothering to represent a stupid ass porn star who still took hush money at the cost of letting someone come into power who is more than happy to fuck a sex worker but doesn't give two shits about actually protecting sex workers or their rights? Stormy Daniels and avenatti or whatever are playin themselves and they're not fit to represent the interests of half of the American people in taking down trump.
By blackace Go To PostIn the middle of his 2nd year and people are still thinking he is going to be taken down? lolDY, you forgot to log out of your alt
By NinjaFridge Go To PostDY, you forgot to log out of your altSo only Dy can have common sense?
By HasphatsAnts Go To Post
gotta report on michael avenatti's financial situation tho.
mainstream media doing a disservice to its audience.
Yeah it was a small blip on today’s reporting. At least China, NK and Iran being fucked up is still being reported on.
By Randolph Freelander Go To Post
Cohen probably won't do well in prison.
Cohen really holding out for that pardon.
By blackace Go To PostSo only Dy can have common sense?
Common sense? Valery Plame took special counsel 3 years
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mueller-is-moving-quickly-compared-to-past-special-counsel-investigations/
Hilarious we can have someone so obviously in cahoots with a foreign power to write EOs and set agendas and shit. Ridiculous.
He isn’t ever getting impeached and could very well end up staying on for another 4-year term. If he were to step down of his own accord that would’ve already happened. The best case scenario, here and now, is that he loses the next election.
By Francis Go To PostHe isn’t ever getting impeached and could very well end up staying on for another 4-year term. If he were to step down of his own accord that would’ve already happened. The best case scenario, here and now, is that he loses the next election.Pretty much this...
By Fenderputty Go To PostCommon sense? Valery Plame took special counsel 3 yearsSo he will have served his first term by the time anything might move? lol That doesn't really sound like a take down...
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mueller-is-moving-quickly-compared-to-past-special-counsel-investigations/
By blackace Go To PostSo he will have served his first term by the time anything might move? lol That doesn't really sound like a take down…
I’ll settle for don jr.
Honestly though, 4 or 8 years, when he’s finally out he’s not protected by congress
By Fenderputty Go To PostI’ll settle for don jr.yeah that will really help the country.
I mean it would be cool and all... but gotta wonder if they really want to make this a standard
By Fenderputty Go To PostHonestly though, 4 or 8 years, when he’s finally out he’s not protected by congressstill not helping what he will had done
I mean Nixon has a term and a half till shit happened.......
And even then he made his own call to step down
And even then he made his own call to step down
By blackace Go To Postyeah that will really help the country.
I mean it would be cool and all… but gotta wonder if they really want to make this a standard
I’m not expecting special counsel to “help the country”, maybe that’s just me though? In the off chance congress flips back in 2018, maybe.
Part of me is operating on vengeance, I will admit. I also think not seeing this through sets an awful precedent
By blackace Go To Poststill not helping what he will had done
For sure. He’s doing lasting damage
By blackace Go To PostWho needs health care when we got vengeance!
This is a silly strawman.
I’m hoping we don’t need to take him out and rather do well in 2018 and 2020, obviously.
I can still want Trump and his family to face justice
By Fenderputty Go To PostThis is a silly strawman.
I’m hoping we don’t need to take him out and rather do well in 2018 and 2020, obviously.
I can still want Trump and his family to face justice
The truth is a strawman? Don't get me wrong I would like to see a lot of these dudes catch time for their crimes... but it's hard to get excited about it if it comes so late in game and it's hard to put faith in a justice system that allows people like Trump or whoever such leeway to continue to do what they do... even under suspect of treason...
People talk a lot of shit about Nixon being a paranoid asshole but at the end of the day he could still be reasoned with on some level. You aren't getting that same party loyalty or anything loyalty from Trump.
By HasphatsAnts Go To Postmainstream media is a business too ijs
gotta report on michael avenatti's financial situation tho.
mainstream media doing a disservice to its audience.
By blackace Go To PostThe truth is a strawman? Don't get me wrong I would like to see a lot of these dudes catch time for their crimes… but it's hard to get excited about it if it comes so late in game and it's hard to put faith in a justice system that allows people like Trump or whoever such leeway to continue to do what they do… even under suspect of treason…
I thought you implied I was arguing vengeance was more important than healthcare, if not I apologize.
I feel for the DOJ right now. This congress is vile. It’s seems like the RNC is getting caught up in this though, so maybe that helps explain the prevent defense theyve been running on the FBI / DOJ?
Regarding policy and lasting damage, the senate in 2018 is most important. Acts as a stop for more Gorsuch and right wing federal judge appointments
By Fenderputty Go To PostI thought you implied I was arguing vengeance was more important than healthcare, if not I apologize.It's just causing the Trump family discomfort isn't as important as keeping the US from turning to shit...so if the system doesn't work for us when we need it to.... vengeance isn't worth shit
I feel for the DOJ right now. This congress is vile. It’s seems like the RNC is getting caught up in this though, so maybe that helps explain the prevent defense theyve been running on the FBI / DOJ?
Regarding policy and lasting damage, the senate in 2018 is most important. Acts as a stop for more Gorsuch and right wing federal judge appointments
A well respected journal in Sweden are claiming they know who assassinated Olof Palme, and have published their findings/theories - complete with name(s) and everything.
They better pray to higher spirits that they're right or there'll be hell to pay.
Here's a report in English.
They better pray to higher spirits that they're right or there'll be hell to pay.
Here's a report in English.
By blackace Go To PostIt's just causing the Trump family discomfort isn't as important as keeping the US from turning to shit…so if the system doesn't work for us when we need it to…. vengeance isn't worth shit
Ohh you don’t need to tell me. I’m in 100% agreement. Ive regularly argued here that our checks and balances and them failing us is a hugely important aspect to the Russia investigation.
Vengeance is what’s keeping me interested and hopeful though. Most of the news, if you follow this shit, is pretty depressing.
Positive special election results has me somewhat hopeful we can at least stop the shitstorm from growing later this year
I'm not sure what people were expecting in terms of a time table with the special investigation, but Mueller is actually on a faster pace than most. Which is pretty impressive considering the scope and depth of this inquiry. One that if you were to guess based on history, would take near the high end in terms of historical length. Yet seems to be on pace to being on the lower, mid end. Which would put Mueller's investigation in the 2 1/2 year time schedule.
I'd also deeply disagree with the notion the left has sort of decided to run with that this is somehow taking away from important issues. The integrity of the very foundation of our democratic system is not a side distraction. Maybe the way press superficially covers it amongst the big three cable networks, but a president conspiring with a hostile foreign power(potentially multiple) in a criminal conspiracy that involves other crimes, and potentially running a Harding-era bribery racket through the office of the presidency and his inner circle is incredibly important to snuff out for the integrity of the democracy.
I'd also deeply disagree with the notion the left has sort of decided to run with that this is somehow taking away from important issues. The integrity of the very foundation of our democratic system is not a side distraction. Maybe the way press superficially covers it amongst the big three cable networks, but a president conspiring with a hostile foreign power(potentially multiple) in a criminal conspiracy that involves other crimes, and potentially running a Harding-era bribery racket through the office of the presidency and his inner circle is incredibly important to snuff out for the integrity of the democracy.
the integrity goes out the window as soon as you start saying "what about saudi arabia?" man. its one thing to go for russia and the previous partnerships there, but once you start skating into broader international relationships? with countries that we don't oppose by default? all that integrity is bullshit.
to imply foreign/industry influence on policy unheard of and that our entire political framework at fed, state, local level operates solely within our borders is a farce. that slope is slippery as FUCK and no one on capitol hill wants any of that smoke. its wholly disingenuous to walk down that path in any form
to imply foreign/industry influence on policy unheard of and that our entire political framework at fed, state, local level operates solely within our borders is a farce. that slope is slippery as FUCK and no one on capitol hill wants any of that smoke. its wholly disingenuous to walk down that path in any form
By Perfect Blue Go To Posta treasure
LMAO
By DY_nasty Go To Postthe integrity goes out the window as soon as you start saying "what about saudi arabia?" man. its one thing to go for russia and the previous partnerships there, but once you start skating into broader international relationships? with countries that we don't oppose by default? all that integrity is bullshit.
to imply foreign/industry influence on policy unheard of and that our entire political framework at fed, state, local level operates solely within our borders is a farce. that slope is slippery as FUCK and no one on capitol hill wants any of that smoke. its wholly disingenuous to walk down that path in any form
a treasure
It would actually be against DOJ and basically all investigatory protocol for an investigation to step over evidence they uncovered of possible additional crimes without either investigating them or handing them off to a part of the department that would. In the case of Cohen/Daniels, they handed it off to the New York attorney's general because they believed it out of their scope, the fact they are hanging onto these Trump tower meetings suggests there is a more direct connection they either have evidence of or have good case to suspect.
In this case, if there is a pattern of behavior, such as the Trump campaign engaging in outreach to not just Russia, but multiple countries to establish a series of quid pro quo agreements for material aide to the campaign, you are talking about 1.) potential additional crimes being uncovered given it is illegal to solicit and coordinate foreign money to help you with a campaign(part of this was actually an outcrop of Nixon), friend or foe, and 2.) it is relevant to your investigation because both your mandate explicitly informs you to look into matters that may arise in the course of the investigation and it also would establish a pattern of behavior relevant to the mission of investigating if and how the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.
By Jonm Go To PostIt would actually be against DOJ and basically all investigatory protocol for an investigation to step over evidence they uncovered of possible additional crimes without either investigating them or handing them off to a part of the department that would. In the case of Cohen/Daniels, they handed it off to the New York attorney's general because they believed it out of their scope, the fact they are hanging onto these Trump tower meetings suggests there is a more direct connection they either have evidence of or have good case to suspect.i just really think its odd how people are absolutely assured without question that arrangements and collaborations with foreign and private parties never happen or are even frowned upon
In this case, if there is a pattern of behavior, such as the Trump campaign engaging in outreach to not just Russia, but multiple countries to establish a series of quid pro quo agreements for material aide to the campaign, you are talking about 1.) potential additional crimes being uncovered given it is illegal to solicit and coordinate foreign money to help you with a campaign(part of this was actually an outcrop of Nixon), friend or foe, and 2.) it is relevant to your investigation because both your mandate explicitly informs you to look into matters that may arise in the course of the investigation and it also would establish a pattern of behavior relevant to the mission of investigating if and how the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.
people literally applauded california's weird china climate deal. didn't even squint at it. im not even appalled by trump so much as im just flatly not understanding why its only a problem for americans now. if anything people should only be upset that he sucks at it, compared to ______ rather than acting like this is a new chapter in american history
By DY_nasty Go To Posti just really think its odd how people are absolutely assured without question that arrangements and collaborations with foreign and private parties never happen or are even frowned upon
people literally applauded california's weird china climate deal. didn't even squint at it. im not even appalled by trump so much as im just flatly not understanding why its only a problem for americans now. if anything people should only be upset that he sucks at it, compared to ______ rather than acting like this is a new chapter in american history
I mean I have not personally seen evidence of this level of behavior going on in recent past campaigns, by all accounts what the Trump campaign has done, in terms of seeking out and likely explicitly coordinating criminal interference into an election through a quid pro quo using proxies for a foreign government, with the intent to aide their election chances, is above and beyond anything we have seen in any campaign for executive office in my lifetime. But even if it is true this has happened before, the buck needs to stop somewhere, it certainly isn't healthy to just throw up our hands and say, oh well, everyone's doing it!
I will say, that because of the inherent stench of how campaign politics is conducted in this country, with PAC's, corporate/mega donors, no-bid contracts, nepotism, model legislation, shadow money etc. I get the notion that many people go to where they just see what Trump as doing as being an extension of that bullshit. And IDK, maybe you have some evidence that it is. But by all my accounts this is substantively a lot different. Which to me is partly why I think this moment should be seen as more important than it is often treated, even by Trump's natural foe's in this, the left. Because this should be a wake up call to all the rots and vulnerabilities in our democratic system. Having a president that has acted so consistently as a stress tests to those institutions and norms underlying it. Not just in the Russia stuff but in his norm breaking at the department of justice, the rampant cronyism going on in departments he staffed, and the rampant conflicts of interest that may have reached straight bribery(like with Russia, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and most recently China).
By Jonm Go To PostI mean I have not personally seen evidence of this level of behavior going on in recent past campaigns, by all accounts what the Trump campaign has done, in terms of seeking out and likely explicitly coordinating criminal interference into an election through a quid pro quo using proxies for a foreign government, with the intent to aide their election chances, is above and beyond anything we have seen in any campaign for executive office in my lifetime. But even if it is true this has happened before, the buck needs to stop somewhere, it certainly isn't healthy to just throw up our hands and say, oh well, everyone's doing it!i'm not even sure what evidence you or any would want
I will say, that because of the inherent stench of how campaign politics is conducted in this country, with PAC's, corporate/mega donors, no-bid contracts, nepotism, model legislation, shadow money etc. I get the notion that many people go to where they just see what Trump as doing as being an extension of that bullshit. And IDK, maybe you have some evidence that it is. But by all my accounts this is substantively a lot different. Which to me is partly why I think this moment should be seen as more important than it is often treated, even by Trump's natural foe's in this, the left. Because this should be a wake up call to all the rots and vulnerabilities in our democratic system. Having a president that has acted so consistently as a stress tests to those institutions and norms underlying it. Not just in the Russia stuff but in his norm breaking at the department of justice, the rampant cronyism going on in departments he staffed, and the rampant conflicts of interest.
if you looked for similarities in just casual google searches and wiki light reading you'd see similar handouts, tradeoffs, and back rubs trend upwards in this country dramatically since the 60s. whether its miltary, trade, popular opinion, etc regarding elections, alliances, sales, whatever
hell, i love tulsi - but she ain't getting grilled up for over a year because of those damascus vacations for a reason lol. going at trump over the most hypocritical stuff is just such a massive waste of time and energy. i almost have to identify it as indirect support at this point
By Perfect Blue Go To PostLMAOOOOO
LMAO
By DY_nasty Go To Posti'm not even sure what evidence you or any would wantI guess I sort of take a bit of an issue with the implication that I am just some person that hasn't managed to do basic due diligence before offering the opinions I did. Trump isn't my first rodeo into the swamp of political corruption.
if you looked for similarities in just casual google searches and wiki light reading you'd see similar handouts, tradeoffs, and back rubs trend upwards in this country dramatically since the 60s. whether its miltary, trade, popular opinion, etc regarding elections, alliances, sales, whatever
hell, i love tulsi - but she ain't getting grilled up for over a year because of those damascus vacations for a reason lol. going at trump over the most hypocritical stuff is just such a massive waste of time and energy. i almost have to identify it as indirect support at this point
If you think this specific behavior is commonplace, then lets look at it. What I am looking for specifically is recent campaigns that were proven or even just suspected with compelling evidence of having solicited help from foreign governments with the expectation of a material exchange of goods or services to help win an election with the promise of material payback by the US counterpart of that exchange.
For instance, evidence might look like the Obama campaign meeting with proxies of the Chinese government to obtain hacked intel from their espionage activities in exchange for something like complete withdrawal from the South China sea. Though I will just settle for what we currently have with Trump's campaign, high level people attending meetings that included the promise of criminally attained information to help their campaign and not contacting the authorities(like for instance this did happen in the Gore campaign and they contacted the FBI immediately).
Which I think is objectively different, both ethically and legally, than the sort of usual swamp politics you see. Which is what makes this so extraordinary. If the Trump's orbit just did things like move the embassy in Israel because it was at the top of the list of his biggest donor, Sheldon Adelson(which he did), I would consider it unethical, and evidence of a corrupt administration that should be voted out(which I do). Except with that I would say, that while being toward the high end of the sort of legal allowed corruption in our system, it is not categorically different than much of the corruption we have seen before.
This is a totally unfair and hypocritical thing to say, but if you play for the league and don't kneel, it's a bad look. I don't want to throw the c word out there in the atmosphere, but these old ass white owners are basically calling you slaves, to your face, with this bullshit. Majority of the damn league is powered by black athletes and instead of doing the right thing, they do this? 😂 Gotta keep moderates and the maga crowd happy. 😂
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44215656
I think we also sold them weapons too after the meeting
Donald Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, received a secret payment of at least $400,000 (£300,000) to fix talks between the Ukrainian president and President Trump, according to sources in Kiev close to those involved.
The meeting at the White House was last June. Shortly after the Ukrainian president returned home, his country's anti-corruption agency stopped its investigation into Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort.
I think we also sold them weapons too after the meeting
So I work an office job in a campus with a bunch of other companies. I just saw a notice on the fridge about an active shooter training next week. This is America.
By Perfect Blue Go To Post
You can’t fire me, I quit!