Inside Xbox One X Enhanced
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I know, I know. We already have a thread for the Witcher 3 article, but since this is a series I thought I'd make a main thread that collects all of them since a new article just went up. I might make it pretty (or I might not).
So here they are, in chronological order in order not to show any bias towards any games:
What specifically is your development team doing to enhance The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt for Xbox One X?
With the additional power of the Xbox One X, we are able to deliver The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in 4K, while providing numerous visual tweaks such as higher-quality shadows, ambient occlusion & texture filtering, as well as higher resolution textures, and an all-around performance boost.
> Read full article at Xbox Wire
What specifically is your development team doing to enhance Halo Wars 2 for Xbox One X?
For Halo Wars 2, we’re taking the increased power of the Xbox One X to punch up the resolution to 4K, and will also support HDR. We’re really proud of the visual effects we have in the game and with 4K support and HDR, all of the artillery fire, plasma shots, particle beams, fire and ice effects all occurring on a massive scale in each battle will really “pop.”
> Read full article at Xbox Wire
More articles to come until they don't.
So here they are, in chronological order in order not to show any bias towards any games:
What specifically is your development team doing to enhance The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt for Xbox One X?
With the additional power of the Xbox One X, we are able to deliver The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in 4K, while providing numerous visual tweaks such as higher-quality shadows, ambient occlusion & texture filtering, as well as higher resolution textures, and an all-around performance boost.
> Read full article at Xbox Wire
What specifically is your development team doing to enhance Halo Wars 2 for Xbox One X?
For Halo Wars 2, we’re taking the increased power of the Xbox One X to punch up the resolution to 4K, and will also support HDR. We’re really proud of the visual effects we have in the game and with 4K support and HDR, all of the artillery fire, plasma shots, particle beams, fire and ice effects all occurring on a massive scale in each battle will really “pop.”
> Read full article at Xbox Wire
More articles to come until they don't.
The more they talk about this system, the more it feels like a mistake to half step into a new generation with a $500 box. They should have just gone all out and made it clear that they're moving forward and jump-starting the 9th gen.
All the back compatibility and HDR enhancements are nice and all, but it just doesn't seem like enough.
All the back compatibility and HDR enhancements are nice and all, but it just doesn't seem like enough.
By GQman2121 Go To PostThe more they talk about this system, the more it feels like a mistake to half step into a new generation with a $500 box. They should have just gone all out and made it clear that they're moving forward and jump-starting the 9th gen.The way Microsoft has talked about it in the past, it seems they are done with actual generations and it's all going to be half steps from here on out. While we haven't had actual confirmation that this is their plan, interviews and snippits have implied that Microsoft doesn't ever want to be in the situation again where an Xbox gamer will have to rebuild their collection of games again much like we had at the start of the current generation with all the remakes and remasters.
All the back compatibility and HDR enhancements are nice and all, but it just doesn't seem like enough.
The general consensus among Xbox gamers is that we'll always have two active Xbox consoles, a mid-range console (Xbox One S) and a high-end console (Xbox One X) and that when the high-end becomes mid-range they will retire the old mid-range and introduce a new high-end.
At the very least all future Xbox consoles will be fully backwards compatible which will blur the lines between generations.
By Ukumio Go To PostThe way Microsoft has talked about it in the past, it seems they are done with actual generations and it's all going to be half steps from here on out. While we haven't had actual confirmation that this is their plan, interviews and snippits have implied that Microsoft doesn't ever want to be in the situation again where an Xbox gamer will have to rebuild their collection of games again much like we had at the start of the current generation with all the remakes and remasters.This is where we're headed.
The general consensus among Xbox gamers is that we'll always have two active Xbox consoles, a mid-range console (Xbox One S) and a high-end console (Xbox One X) and that when the high-end becomes mid-range they will retire the old mid-range and introduce a new high-end.
At the very least all future Xbox consoles will be fully backwards compatible which will blur the lines between generations.
I'd rather they used the power to make Halo Wars 2 60fps on Xbox. It's not a hugely impressive looking game (except those cutscenes, phew) even with all the setting jacked up on PC and real time strategy at 30 frames is no good.
I doubt it happens, but a new $500+ machine every 24 or so months sounds like a nightmare.
Moving forward I think everyone expects their current library to remain playable. It's the previous legacy games that are vulnerable and those are what need to make the jump to the current gen or risk being left behind for good.
Moving forward I think everyone expects their current library to remain playable. It's the previous legacy games that are vulnerable and those are what need to make the jump to the current gen or risk being left behind for good.
By Ukumio Go To PostThe way Microsoft has talked about it in the past, it seems they are done with actual generations and it's all going to be half steps from here on out. While we haven't had actual confirmation that this is their plan, interviews and snippits have implied that Microsoft doesn't ever want to be in the situation again where an Xbox gamer will have to rebuild their collection of games again much like we had at the start of the current generation with all the remakes and remasters.
The general consensus among Xbox gamers is that we'll always have two active Xbox consoles, a mid-range console (Xbox One S) and a high-end console (Xbox One X) and that when the high-end becomes mid-range they will retire the old mid-range and introduce a new high-end.
At the very least all future Xbox consoles will be fully backwards compatible which will blur the lines between generations.
I'm ok with this
You don't instantly lose your PC game collection when you change parts or upgrade. Would be great of it finally happened to consoles.
By GQman2121 Go To PostI doubt it happens, but a new $500+ machine every 24 or so months sounds like a nightmare.
Why would it be every 24 months or so? More likely every 4-5 years (depending on technology growth). The Xbox S was a very slight improvement over the original Xbox One, therefore they are considered by many (including developers) to be the same machine. The only real improvement the S brought to the table over the Xbox One was HDR, otherwise they are the same from a developer standpoint.
I expect we'll see the next High-end Xbox One around 2021-2022ish.
By Smokey Go To PostI'm ok with thisI was one of the few that was okay with these kind of things. I likened it to mid-cycle refreshes of cars, or you know, the mobile phone industry and laptop industry that are on yearly cycles lol.
You don't instantly lose your PC game collection when you change parts or upgrade. Would be great of it finally happened to consoles.
I am kind of torn on the mid gen revisions. On one hand, everything is in the same ecosystem. On the other hand, it is getting more costly to keep on buying things under the same ecosystem. I mean, i like the X, but 500 dollars is steep.
But you don't have to buy it! The subtle difference here is that the X1S still exists for $250. Ditto for the PS4 Slim.
By StarFireMk4 Go To PostI am kind of torn on the mid gen revisions. On one hand, everything is in the same ecosystem. On the other hand, it is getting more costly to keep on buying things under the same ecosystem. I mean, i like the X, but 500 dollars is steep.That's the thing though, you don't need the X, all the games that come out in the next 3-4 years are guaranteed to work on the Xbox One (S). The only exception I see to this is when they introduce VR.
The Xbox One X is a premium device not aimed at anyone but the hardcore and people who either care about graphics or have a 4K tv. The Xbox One will work for a while yet as someone's main console.
The price point is the biggest barrier to me. $500 is a lot. But I have so much invested in the Xbox ecosystem over 15 years now, with hundreds of games (physical and digital) between the Xbox, 360, and One, so there's something super valuable to me about having all three generations of games on one box that plays them all in the best possible way.
Like, the stuff they're doing with Halo 3 on the X is incredible, even if that MCC collection version will surpass it in a few months. Has anybody tried to play vanilla Halo 3 lately? It's really low res, suffers from bad aliasing, the frame rate tanks in parts, and what they showed of the X enhancements are pretty amazing. It's not going to be all games that get this treatment, but it's a really enticing proposition when you know that more of them will. Halo Reach at HD resolution, plus HDR and a locked 30? Man.
Like, the stuff they're doing with Halo 3 on the X is incredible, even if that MCC collection version will surpass it in a few months. Has anybody tried to play vanilla Halo 3 lately? It's really low res, suffers from bad aliasing, the frame rate tanks in parts, and what they showed of the X enhancements are pretty amazing. It's not going to be all games that get this treatment, but it's a really enticing proposition when you know that more of them will. Halo Reach at HD resolution, plus HDR and a locked 30? Man.
By Ukumio Go To PostThe way Microsoft has talked about it in the past, it seems they are done with actual generations and it's all going to be half steps from here on out. While we haven't had actual confirmation that this is their plan, interviews and snippits have implied that Microsoft doesn't ever want to be in the situation again where an Xbox gamer will have to rebuild their collection of games again much like we had at the start of the current generation with all the remakes and remasters.
The general consensus among Xbox gamers is that we'll always have two active Xbox consoles, a mid-range console (Xbox One S) and a high-end console (Xbox One X) and that when the high-end becomes mid-range they will retire the old mid-range and introduce a new high-end.
At the very least all future Xbox consoles will be fully backwards compatible which will blur the lines between generations.
This is a terrible idea, when do you phase the old one out and if you have to start developing for lowest common denominator you kind of lose one of the major benefits of console gaming imo
But aren't you always tied down to the weakest link?
Also, the market has shown over the last year that the cheapest option is by far the most appealing to the mass consumer. It's a slippery slope.
edit: basically what Kid is saying
Also, the market has shown over the last year that the cheapest option is by far the most appealing to the mass consumer. It's a slippery slope.
edit: basically what Kid is saying
By Kidjr Go To PostThis is a terrible idea, when do you phase the old one out and if you have to start developing for lowest common denominator you kind of lose one of the major benefits of console gaming imo
As I said you replace the mid-range console when the high-end becomes mid-range due to technology growth and price cuts and the need for a new high-end console arises. At the start of this generation both console families started out with one (somewhat) high-end console but due to the introduction of 4K, HDR, VR and growing need for more resources, they both became mid-range consoles by about the 3 year mark with costs roughly half of their launch price, shortly after a new high end console for both families were introduced which introduced higher specs as well as more features (4K, HDR, VR). I daresay the Xbox One X will follow a similar trajectory with its hardware no longer matching the higher tier of PC graphics in about 3-5 years, and its price will drop so that its much cheaper making it so the Xbox One X is the defacto console when buying a new Xbox. At around this time Microsoft would introduce the next Scorpio.
The reason I stopped referencing PlayStation halfway through the post is because based on Sony's own words, they are still interested in doing it the traditional way.
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with either model. Personally I prefer the way Microsoft seems to be going as it means I can wait 6-8 years before I NEED to upgrade, much like it is in the phone world (though phones have a shorter lifespan, similar idea: new phone every year but no need to upgrade until after 2-3 years).
By Ukumio Go To PostThat's the thing though, you don't need the X, all the games that come out in the next 3-4 years are guaranteed to work on the Xbox One (S). The only exception I see to this is when they introduce VR.I get what you're saying here. I do. I just think the timing is poor. We should be getting ready for leaks on PS5 and the Next Box rumors for next summer with a window of 2019 or 20 holiday launch. My 24 month comment was partially with that in mind. I mean, how long is the 1X expected to be their premium experience?
The Xbox One X is a premium device not aimed at anyone but the hardcore and people who either care about graphics or have a 4K tv. The Xbox One will work for a while yet as someone's main console.
By GQman2121 Go To PostI get what you're saying here. I do. I just think the timing is poor. We should be getting ready for leaks on PS5 and the Next Box rumors for next summer with a window of 2019 or 20 holiday launch. My 24 month comment was partially with that in mind. I mean, how long is the 1X expected to be their premium experience?
In my mind about 3-5 years.
(Love how I accidently derailed my own thread)
Also, Halo 5's XOX update went up today, though 343 doesn't say much other than it's 4K. It's 14.56 GB. (The game's total size is now 106.5 GB. Good lord.)
Halo 5 looks and plays better than ever on Xbox One X! Experience the game like never before with unmatched clarity, richness, and detail in 4K Ultra HD on a compatible display. Xbox One X also delivers the best Halo 5 gameplay experience with crisp, smooth control, and consistent visual feedback at a steady 60 FPS.
With eleven free content releases since launch, enjoy the deepest, most feature-packed Halo game yet and jump into the action faster than ever before with the shorter load times offered by Xbox One X.
Some shots from Era.
And this is at 1080p where the system applies some downsampling if you using a 1080p display.
And this is at 1080p where the system applies some downsampling if you using a 1080p display.
By Smokey Go To PostSome shots from Era.
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And this is at 1080p where the system applies some downsampling if you using a 1080p display.
These actually look really good