By Omzz Go To Post
losing iggy would help massively in terms of them actually being beatable
I hope he does chase the money. Good for the league and for his pockets.
By domino Go To PostAll this talk and we'll probably just keep it simple and take Lonzo #2straight up
blackace acting like he never seen a smokescreen before
Jayson Tatum is a scoring combo forward so clearly Gordon Hayward is no longer a target for them now that they have Tatum to fill Hayward's role.
*fingers crossed*
*fingers crossed*
By domino Go To PostAll this talk and we'll probably just keep it simple and take Lonzo #2
We're gonna select Lonzo, keep #28 and not find an additional first. George will be traded elsewhere for peanuts, where he'll sign long term next summer.
By Kuma Go To PostWe worked out Tatum today. Hope we draft him.
BTW Lakers I need y'all to be good next year.
We're gonna be about bottom 5 for sure. Orlando Brooklyn LA Phoenix Kings, another team might join the list before the season starts.
The combo part of Tatum scares me. Ainge apparently thinks the dude is Paul Pierce, but what if he's more Derrick Williams and can't really guard either spot? Also, that jumper is weird.
By IWMTB19 Go To Post
… Ainge thinks Jayson Tatum is the best player in the draft?
Their draft history tells me that their belief that Fultz Ball Jackson and tatum are all the same tier, is probably not reality.
Protections are officially out for the trade that has been approved and is good to go.
Sixers get the Boston #1 2017 pick.
Boston gets the Sixers #3 2017 pick.
Boston also receives the Lakers 2018 pick as long as it is #2-4. If it falls outside of that range, the Celtics get the rights to the better of 2019's Sixers or Kings pick, unless that pick is #1. In that case, the Celtics get the worse of those two picks.
Sixers get the Boston #1 2017 pick.
Boston gets the Sixers #3 2017 pick.
Boston also receives the Lakers 2018 pick as long as it is #2-4. If it falls outside of that range, the Celtics get the rights to the better of 2019's Sixers or Kings pick, unless that pick is #1. In that case, the Celtics get the worse of those two picks.
The protections on that Lakers pick are very friendly to the Sixers. To the point that I'm surprised Ainge would agree to it unless he thinks the Kings 2019 pick will be better. (I mean, it is the Kings.)
By DY_nasty Go To Postkings and nets smhWhen you can trade a first to sign Marco Bellineli and Kosta Koufos, you gotta do it.
(Honestly did not know this pick was unprotected until today. Dear god.)
There isn't much consensus on what we're gonna do with our pick.
I've seen mocks in which we take Anunoby, Ojeleye, White, and Anigbogu.
Only guy I'd get very excited about is Jawun Evans.
I've seen mocks in which we take Anunoby, Ojeleye, White, and Anigbogu.
Only guy I'd get very excited about is Jawun Evans.
By rodeoclown Go To PostThe combo part of Tatum scares me. Ainge apparently thinks the dude is Paul Pierce, but what if he's more Derrick Williams and can't really guard either spot? Also, that jumper is weird.
Tatum shoots >80% from the line, he's going to be a really good shooter.
But he probably can't beat SFs off the dribble and can he defend PFs? Ehhhhh. If he can rebound and defend the paint well enough at PF, he should be a good player, but he's like 210 pounds.
Bill Simmons on his podcast today basically said, "All it takes is one team to screw up and Sacramento gets a good player at 10. What if Minnesota takes Markkanen?" Everyone knows this is happening, right? This is a when not if.
One other thing about Tatum on Boston is that it's not like Horford can rebound or block shots...
And Boston has the smallest guard lineup in the league.
This team is going to need their SF to average like 11 rebounds a game.
And Boston has the smallest guard lineup in the league.
This team is going to need their SF to average like 11 rebounds a game.
By rodeoclown Go To PostBill Simmons on his podcast today basically said, "All it takes is one team to screw up and Sacramento gets a good player at 10. What if Minnesota takes Markkanen?" Everyone knows this is happening, right? This is a when not if.are you guys even keeping the pick?
Kevin Ding is saying LA as of late suspects Ball will be better than Fultz long term, sounds like damage control after trying to manipulate the market with smoke screens.
But I think this makes it pretty clear that Ball is going #2.
But I think this makes it pretty clear that Ball is going #2.
By Kibner Go To PostProtections are officially out for the trade that has been approved and is good to go.
Sixers get the Boston #1 2017 pick.
Boston gets the Sixers #3 2017 pick.
Boston also receives the Lakers 2018 pick as long as it is #2-4. If it falls outside of that range, the Celtics get the rights to the better of 2019's Sixers or Kings pick, unless that pick is #1. In that case, the Celtics get the worse of those two picks.
Its kind of dicey all around because Sac is easily going to be bottom 3 in 19--very decent chance that the Sixers could be improved by then as well as sac getting #1 resulting in the pick going to Philly. As for next year, Lakers could be in the mid to late lottery if they start to build a roster with George in mind prior to the all-star break.
By DY_nasty Go To Postare you guys even keeping the pick?If they can get a veteran wing or 4 they like, they'll trade it. But I think Markkanen is the guy if they're actually picking at 7 for themselves.
And everyone that knows better will make fun of them and the cycle of Wolvesdom continues as people try and talk themselves into a suspect draft selection.
Man, I don't like the pick, but all they're doing right now is fucking with Lavar. Trying to make it seems like it's not a sure thing and make him sweat it a bit
By diehard Go To PostIf he's right it was a genius move.
What draft insight has Ainge shown over the last decade that makes this look likely? I mean sure, he's probably due to luck into a sure thing eventually like CLE did with Kyrie, but he kind of just traded away the first chance he had at a pick no one would criticize him for.
By rodeoclown Go To PostIf they can get a veteran wing or 4 they like, they'll trade it. But I think Markkanen is the guy if they're actually picking at 7 for themselves.kinda sucks millsap already made up his mind about free agency tbh. would've been a great fit imo
And everyone that knows better will make fun of them and the cycle of Wolvesdom continues as people try and talk themselves into a suspect draft selection.
Lebron's wife wants to live in LA full time.
King james and king George probably gave each other winks already.
#Collusion
King james and king George probably gave each other winks already.
#Collusion
By Moris Go To PostWhere's Millsap headed?i honestly have no clue. if he's out for cash its one thing, but if he wants to take any kind of paycut based on winning things get interesting...
aldridge said the wiz are looking into ways to make a PG trade happen
oubre and a first is better than love crying on your rebuilding team
make it happen ernie pls
oubre and a first is better than love crying on your rebuilding team
make it happen ernie pls
By xnipx Go To PostThey'll probably want Porter too.
i would give him up with no fucks given but sign and trades are awkward now
Will Thibs finally be willing to give up Kris Dunn?!?
Honestly though, the Wolves should trade Andrew Wiggins for Jimmy Butler.
Crabbe also makes 6x more and has no upside, he is what is probably.
Dunn is going to be bad though.
But let's bring this trade to SLAENT.
Jazz get: Crabbe, 10th pick (Dennis Smith Jr?)
Blazers get: Favors
Kings get: 15th pick, 24th pick.
Dunn is going to be bad though.
But let's bring this trade to SLAENT.
Jazz get: Crabbe, 10th pick (Dennis Smith Jr?)
Blazers get: Favors
Kings get: 15th pick, 24th pick.
Lets be real--Dunn isn't the major piece in a trade with Chicago at this point. They'd probably want Dunn and the Minny pick...which is probably fair.
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostLets be real–Dunn isn't the major piece in a trade with Chicago at this point. They'd probably want Dunn and the Minny pick…which is probably fair.
Wiggins for Butler is fair too though...
Wiggins' upside is DeMar DeRozan.
Butler is already better than DeRozan and thus better than Wiggins will probably ever be.
Okay, so this is a good example of a mythical three or four team trade.
Team A wants to acquire star B from team C without giving up their players.
Then they look around for teams to rip off to give team C.
But these teams don't exist ever.
But we still get these "rumors" even though they're garbage.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostWiggins for Butler is fair too though…
Wiggins' upside is DeMar DeRozan.
Butler is already better than DeRozan and thus better than Wiggins will probably ever be.
But how many wins is Butler swapped for Wiggins worth? And Jimmy will be 28 at the start of the season
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostBut how many wins is Butler swapped for Wiggins worth? And Jimmy will be 28 at the start of the seasonA lot. Wiggins is not a plus basketball player right now. Jimmy Butler rates as one of the best players in the league.
If we just go by win shares, it's nearly +10.
Yeah. Butler is great. Would immediately improve Minnesota.
But really one of the guys not named Rubio needs to start playing defense and KAT needs to not be one of the worst defensive players in the league if Minnesota wants to win anything.
It's amazing that Minnesota has so many physically gifted athletes on the team and they're ALL awful on defense.
But really one of the guys not named Rubio needs to start playing defense and KAT needs to not be one of the worst defensive players in the league if Minnesota wants to win anything.
It's amazing that Minnesota has so many physically gifted athletes on the team and they're ALL awful on defense.
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postlosing iggy would help massively in terms of them actually being beatable
I hope he does chase the money. Good for the league and for his pockets.
During the parade Iggy said that Patrick McCaw was a replacement and that he was happy that the team was developing dudes like him to carry the future of the team.
I would love to keep Iggy, SDot should go chase the money he deserves. McCaw can fill for that. McCaw isn't ready to fill for Iggy.
I mean, yes, Minnesota's entire future depends on how good KAT gets at defense.
But regardless of how good KAT will be defensively, Wiggins for Butler I think still makes sense.
But regardless of how good KAT will be defensively, Wiggins for Butler I think still makes sense.
Aging your core by 6 years in order to get swept by GS is probably a bad idea
If you want to move Wiggins then do it for a younger piece. Because the next thing you know you've got Kat and old man Butler and Kat starts looking to pull a K-Love
If you want to move Wiggins then do it for a younger piece. Because the next thing you know you've got Kat and old man Butler and Kat starts looking to pull a K-Love
By s y Go To PostYeah. Butler is great. Would immediately improve Minnesota.They are also all very young. It takes a long time for one-and-done players to get good at NBA defense. Especially bigs. AD was a dominant defensive college player and it took him until like the end of his third season to be average at defense for a PF.
But really one of the guys not named Rubio needs to start playing defense and KAT needs to not be one of the worst defensive players in the league if Minnesota wants to win anything.
It's amazing that Minnesota has so many physically gifted athletes on the team and they're ALL awful on defense.
By Kibner Go To PostThey are also all very young. It takes a long time for one-and-done players to get good at NBA defense. Especially bigs. AD was a dominant defensive college player and it took him until like the end of his third season to be average at defense for a PF.Yeah, I'm working with the opposite end of spectrum with Winslow.